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After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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george floyd was killed in the street like an animal and florida is trying to ban trans people from existing in public.

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No, those were contributing factors, not the cause of death.

And no, the medical reports do not back you up.

So in your opinion,” Nelson asked, “both the heart disease as well as the history of hypertension and the drugs that were in his system played a role in Mr. Floyd’s death?”

“In my opinion, yes,” Baker said.

But Baker reiterated he stood by the cause of death he wrote on Floyd’s death certificate and his finding Floyd’s death was a homicide, which to a medical examiner means his death was caused by another person and does not necessarily indicate guilt.

“Yes, I would still classify it as homicide today,” he said.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/09/us/derek-chauvin-trial-ge...

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Are you not seeing a discussion about surgery here?

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> These things are all designed to permanently turn people (in particular young people, children) into bad simulacra of the other sex.

Citation needed. They're _designed_ to permanently turn people into bad simulacra of the other sex?

> That’s literally satanic by the way.

What? Even if that were true, who cares? Your particular religious beliefs are irrelevant.

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Almost no word in this is true. Blockers are "reversible": You stop taking them. Their primary effect is a delay of puberty during use , nothing more drastic. "Activists" push them because the negative mental health effects of forcing trans children to go through puberty before they have a chance to decide as adults whether or not to fully transition are severe and debilitating, and it's shockingly immoral to try to…

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Yes, it's shockingly immoral when the evidence of harm of letting trans kids go through puberty is as significant as it is.

It is exactly because some regret more invasive changes that puberty blockers are essential when medically indicated to allow decisions to be deferred until patients are more mature. The only one wanting "adult perverts on the internet" to decide medic issues for these kids are those arguing to deny patients medically indicated treatment.

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> What's you explanation then for why literally nobody cared about adult trans people just a few years ago? Because it’s an invented political scapegoat, just like countless others. Trans people were out and about 10 years ago and nobody gave a shit. I’m from a small town in Appalachia and my grandma had a trans friend that was out and open 30 years ago. They stopped by when I was a kid and we treated her as a normal…

> Social media told you to be angry about people that’ve been around forever. You chose to only pay attention recently and get angry. Again, no. It's only when they started telling children it was a good idea to sterilize themselves. Just don't do irreversible damage to children, it's that easy. Find other shibboleths to identify good communists that don't involve chopping bits off kids.

You're inventing things people aren't arguing for. The purpose of giving puberty blockers, for example, is to buy time to avoid irreversible damage at a too young age. And yes, to a child whose dysphoria does not resolve, puberty as the wrobg sex is irreversible damage.

If you believe your own arguments, presumably you support them.

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No, it is the very same thing in the case of this list. Precision is important. Protesting that one's cause is noble would be missing the point of the quote entirely. Everybody who has ever made lists thought they were doing it for a worthy cause.

They are not suspected to, they have been caught in consensual acts, they were caught red handed to be hypocrites. A gay person isn't a hypocrite for being gay, a gay person condemning and harming other gay people is a hypocrite.

And I suppose those who harm gay people by bullying them and publicly shaming them deserve everything that's coming to them, especially if they're doing from a hypocritical and misguided delusion of righteousness...

Again missing the point. It isn't a challenge to defend oneself, it's an invitation to reflect. Less talking, more thinking.

Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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This article is excessively US/Texas-centric. The satanic panic happened in the UK too. The wikipedia article also seems to imply that the scare was predominantly USA-based. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_panic

I don’t quite understand what you mean by “excessively”, it’s a regional news outlet detailing injustice of a Texan? The backdrop of the story has been covered before.

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They are not suspected to, they have been caught in consensual acts, they were caught red handed to be hypocrites. A gay person isn't a hypocrite for being gay, a gay person condemning and harming other gay people is a hypocrite.

And I suppose those who harm gay people by bullying them and publicly shaming them deserve everything that's coming to them, especially if they're doing from a hypocritical and misguided delusion of righteousness... Again missing the point. It isn't a challenge to defend oneself, it's an invitation to reflect. Less talking, more thinking.

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Yes, it's shockingly immoral when the evidence of harm of letting trans kids go through puberty is as significant as it is. It is exactly because some regret more invasive changes that puberty blockers are essential when medically indicated to allow decisions to be deferred until patients are more mature. The only one wanting "adult perverts on the internet" to decide medic issues for these kids are those arguing to…

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> Social media told you to be angry about people that’ve been around forever. You chose to only pay attention recently and get angry. Again, no. It's only when they started telling children it was a good idea to sterilize themselves. Just don't do irreversible damage to children, it's that easy. Find other shibboleths to identify good communists that don't involve chopping bits off kids.

You're inventing things people aren't arguing for. The purpose of giving puberty blockers, for example, is to buy time to avoid irreversible damage at a too young age. And yes, to a child whose dysphoria does not resolve, puberty as the wrobg sex is irreversible damage. If you believe your own arguments, presumably you support them.

If I believed all those dysphoria cases were real and not social contagion I would. But I don't, so I don't.
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