AI: Markets for Lemons, and the Great Logging Off

Post by notadev » Thu, Dec 29, 2022, 8:45 AM UTC

seydor wrote: post #23

The internet is not limited to Social networks. The "Market for lemons" has existed for decade, google is a market for lemons where people buy from SEO spam, Google assistant , Siri , amazon are also. The logging off is a pipe dream for some people, even though they know that humans are informational creatures and that the "offline world" has never lived up to the desirable one since the time books were invented. Doo…

Post by emporas » Thu, Dec 29, 2022, 8:47 AM UTC

glass3 wrote: post #16

emporas wrote: post #4

Spam will flood a lot of places for sure. But there is a solution! We were just talking about it in a lively and informative thread on lichess. [1] A social graph, in which people are confirmed as humans from the outside world as well as from the virtual world, connecting hierarchies of pseudonymous accounts together. The social graph of reputation systems, has a necessary constraint, it has to be retained in the blo…

>As soon as a node can be planted by a malicious actor It's a directed graph that indicate who trusts whom. If you identify a malicious actor, you only have to re-validate the nodes that receive their trust from that actor. You can also use weights, e.g. to reduce the influence of new nodes.

Post by ben_w » Thu, Dec 29, 2022, 8:49 AM UTC

arcturus17 wrote: post #38

woeirua wrote: post #9

This article gets it. ChatGPT heralds the end of free user comments, forums and social media. Because when everything and everyone online is fake, why even log on to Insta or FB or Twitter? The internet will still be useful, but Web 2.0 will go the way of the dodo unless it adapts and the easiest way to cut down on spam is to charge users money for access. Spam campaigns are a lot less lucrative when it costs money t…

The volumes of email spam are absolutely staggering, but its detection and filtering, with minuscule amounts of false negatives, are nearly perfect. It has been largely a solved problem for a decade to which we give very little credit. Me personally, it blows my mind out of the water every time I'm reminded of it.

Post by college_physics » Thu, Dec 29, 2022, 8:53 AM UTC

forgotusername6 wrote: post #19

college_physics wrote: post #11

In real life people developed (over millenia) a wide range of mechanisms to support stable social interactions. Concepts like ownership, privacy, authority etc. are not laws of nature but deeply rooted behavioral patterns that proved to be useful in some global sense. What happens currently with the explosion of "digital society" is that, largely due to greed, certain first mover groups are dismantling all that - bas…

I would argue that calling businesses that offer cashless services "ruling elites" is not particularly helpful. There are legitimate reasons why they no longer offer cash services e.g. fraud prevention, speed of transaction, health concerns. In addition a fast food truck offering only cashless can hardly be considered an elite.

Post by eru » Thu, Dec 29, 2022, 8:55 AM UTC

ourlordcaffeine wrote: post #56

wyldfire wrote: post #2

> Second, I think people will start to put a premium on accounts being "verified" as genuinely human. IMO this is long overdue. And I think people should/will eventually even pay for this feature. > Powerful nation states will be more than eager to assist them in this regard. I agree - world governments could consider even subsidizing this in some way in order to foster fewer anonymous botnets sowing discord. The web…

Won't bot/troll farms just buy "verified human" accounts?