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TikTok videos leave teens thinking they have rare mental disorders (2021)

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Post by sam0x17 »

na85 wrote: post #45
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I for one will be giving my child unfettered and unmonitored access to the internet as I had growing up. I will be suplementing that experience with plenty of education on how to avoid some of the pitfalls, but I find the best way to learn that stuff is to experience it yourself.

Not sure how old you are but the internet of today is not the same as it was when I was growing up.

I find the opposite is true. There used to be WAY more easy access to straight up illegal stuff right out of google search.

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Post by kodah »

SQueeeeeL wrote: post #262
quasarj wrote: post #246

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I personally hate seeing all the ADHD stuff, I feel like most of those people are faking/wrong as well. But I don't know, maybe I just have ADHD? I just feel like they are always like "this is life with ADHD" and I'm like "what? that's just life? isn't that how everyone is?"

I think a counter argument that makes a lot of sense to me is that our modern society is so novel, interconnected, and overstimulating, that it makes sense the prevalence of ADHD and depression have increased massively, especially compared to the populations of 50 years ago.

Another counter-argument is that interest in pop-psychology has risen over the years and that rise also aligns with abuses of psychological labels. Maybe some subjects should not have casual interests.

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Post by sam0x17 »

exolymph wrote: post #569
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I for one will be giving my child unfettered and unmonitored access to the internet as I had growing up. I will be suplementing that experience with plenty of education on how to avoid some of the pitfalls, but I find the best way to learn that stuff is to experience it yourself.

If you have daughters there is a large chance they will fall in love with manipulative predators. Source: myself and many of my peers.

A lesson that needs to be learned in my opinion. I learned it the hard way, why provide guardrails I didn't have and expect my kids to come out better? I'd rather just re-create as best I can what I had access to and provide advice where I had none. Any attempt I make to restrict thigns further than what I had is just going to back-fire.

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Post by mtlmtlmtlmtl »

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I think the main point of removing this exclusion is that you can be depressed and bereaved at the same time. Or you could be so depressed due to bereavement that you still need treatment. In DSM-V it's left to the clinician to distinguish between clinically significant depression and a healthy, transitory reaction to bereavement. The reason for this is to avoid cases where people who need treatment are dismissed too…

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The creators of the DSM have become extremely wary of creating diagnoses on people who don't think they have a problem, and who function in their everyday lives. I don't think there's anything particular about religion that can be classed as a distinct disorder. There's psychosis(schizophrenia, type 1 bipolar disorder, schizoaffective disorder), etc and delusional disorder for cases where people lose their grip on reality completely, and become a danger to themselves and others. The criteria for a belief to be a delusion are pretty strict. For it to be a delusion the person would have to hold on to their belief despite irrefutable evidence to the contrary. Religious belief is in most cases something completely different, namely a strongly held conviction that's been drilled in since birth. And religious beliefs are designed to be hard to disprove. So it's like trying to remove the bottom piece of a jenga tower. But it's not usually a sign of some profound defect in cognition, which a delusion is.

Of course psychotic delusions often can take on religious content, but that's perfectly within the existing criteria for the various psychotic/delusional disorders. It's just that the bar for describing a religious belief as a delusion is quite high, because perfectly healthy, functional people regularly believe some pretty "out there" stuff.

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Post by mtlmtlmtlmtl »

ralusek wrote: post #83
jnovek wrote: post #26

As an adult who struggles with ADHD that can be severely impairing, I’ve learned quite a few tricks from TikTok’s ADHD advocates. It’s definitely a coin with two sides. Edit: I’ve also learned to accept things about me that I can’t change. For example, I have a better outcome if I plan to be distracted rather than trying to fight my way through distraction.

Devil's advocate: I'm sure the people learning about their non-existent dissociative identity disorders also feel as though they're learning useful information and tricks. That being said, I'm in no way implying that the internet can't contain useful information.

Maybe they could at least learn that dissociative identity disorder and schizophrenia are not the same thing. Then something good could come out of it after all.

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Post by luckylion »

corobo wrote: post #568
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They don't work for you, I take it? I had read about how stimulants don't do much for the average person and that much of it is placebo. I know they do a lot for me -- well, Modafinil/Armodafinil does, I haven't tried any other because I'm so happy with these. I feel lucky I have something that works, I don't mind not having a diagnosis. It'd make sourcing them easier and free, but at $2 a pill and with the multiplie…

I had thought the dosage I'm on was working and then I lost a freelance client after slipping too far behind schedule. Decent pay it was as well, cleared a bunch of the debt I'm lugging around. ADHD tax haha, it is what it is. Waiting on an appointment to review the meds

That sucks, hopefully you'll find some that work better.

It used to be kind of like that for me, though me feeling guilty to let people down usually made me fight to barely make it. It's day and night now, I just sit down in the morning and get to work. It helps that they let me hunt squirrels as long as I make enough progress on the main topics, but even things where the work is super boring you just need to put the hours in is now just "okay, works for me" where it would have been a week of agonizing start, work 30 minutes, pause for 3 hours. I've been more productive in the past two years than I have been in the ten years before that.

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Post by balfirevic »

luckylion wrote: post #596
corobo wrote: post #568

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I had thought the dosage I'm on was working and then I lost a freelance client after slipping too far behind schedule. Decent pay it was as well, cleared a bunch of the debt I'm lugging around. ADHD tax haha, it is what it is. Waiting on an appointment to review the meds

That sucks, hopefully you'll find some that work better. It used to be kind of like that for me, though me feeling guilty to let people down usually made me fight to barely make it. It's day and night now, I just sit down in the morning and get to work. It helps that they let me hunt squirrels as long as I make enough progress on the main topics, but even things where the work is super boring you just need to put the…

Are you worried about tolerance, taking modafinil regularly?

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Post by mtlmtlmtlmtl »

Balgair wrote: post #360
jnovek wrote: post #26

As an adult who struggles with ADHD that can be severely impairing, I’ve learned quite a few tricks from TikTok’s ADHD advocates. It’s definitely a coin with two sides. Edit: I’ve also learned to accept things about me that I can’t change. For example, I have a better outcome if I plan to be distracted rather than trying to fight my way through distraction.

I'll echo the sentiment. I was unaware that thing I saw as 'normal' were more on the 'adhd' side of the spectrum than the 'normal' side. Learning that I was simultaneously not alone and 'rare' has been quite helpful. The reddit for adhd memes have been fun to go through. https://old.reddit.com/r/adhdmeme/top/?sort=top&t=all The socks one was a childhood fight in our family constantly. I hated certain socks and my sib…

The sock thing always annoyed me but not to the level you describe.I do have this same thing with bathing in the ocean and getting sea plants stuck around my toes. And the way they'll brush against your skin out of nowhere while swimming. Utter revulsion.

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Post by MaxHoppersGhost »

Ardon wrote: post #34
nemo44x wrote: post #15

For all of human history across every culture, parents would do what they could to keep their kids away from “bad influences”. You move to certain areas, go to certain places, are members of certain organizations etc. which serve to socialize your kids with kids from families that have shared values. You don’t talk to strangers. With the internet and especially media like TikTok parents are exposing their kids to unt…

I think there's an interesting phenomenon where the lower bound of "bad influences" has gotten much lower in a lot of places that used to be safe. Previously, bad influences were limited to what your local neighborhood kids were telling your kid. This could be bad, they could be torturing cats or something, but that wasn't likely. And that floor could be raised by society as a whole improving. Now, with TikTok, the o…

> The problem is much of America (and much of the world) is completely boned on this front by living in places that just don't form a community, like suburbs, or just low-density non-walkable areas in general

Why do you think you’re less likely to form a community in suburbs? I live in SF in an apt with a walk score of 98 and I don’t think there is much of a “community” here at all.

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Post by naravara »

jquery wrote: post #544
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ADHD here at a higher level of disability. It's way more than a different mode of thinking. It's crippling and the reason I can barely function in any work setting. Medication and therapy throughout my life, since I was 2, only got me to this level. Without it I'd of probably been dead years ago from just following every impulse and getting myself in situations where I'm way over my head and way too stressed to deal…

I agree with you 100%. Sorry for being unclear. I just meant at low levels ADHD can be a different mode of thinking. Much like OCD can simply be a more cautious personality… until it becomes so cautious that it’s disabling and no longer just a “cautious personality” but a completely pathological OCD mode of thinking. It’s important to be aware of both ADHD and OCD and other mental illnesses so that we can seek treatm…

That’s interesting. What you said actually reminded me of when I took my dog through obedience training and the trainer told me that a lot of working dog behaviors are basically normal wolf or wild dog impulses tuned to be way way stronger through artificial selection.

So, for instance, shepherd breeds’ herding instincts come from a combination of a sort of compulsive desire to keep things together and a deep suspicious of aberrant. Consequently, these breeds are prone to neuroticism and anxiety when those traits present too strongly.

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