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TikTok videos leave teens thinking they have rare mental disorders (2021)

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This and the parent’s statement is almost entirely wrong. Given 2 statements: 1) Americans don’t seek/receive enough mental healthcare 2) Americans seek/receive too much mental health care no one (other than the old school types who think mental health is simply something for weak people) would pick (2) as true.

Americans don’t receive enough HEALTH care. Period. When they do it’s a yearly 10 minute appointment with a primary care physician. The physician breezes in, looks at some lab work, asks a few questions, writes a prescription or two (hey they have to “treat” something), and heads to the next patient because they do not have time. 80% of anti-depressants are prescribed by general practitioners, not psychiatrists: http…

Healthcare costs are equal to the amount of healthcare used multiplied by the cost per use.

Big picture, Americans use a bit less healthcare and an other parts of the world, but they tend to spend about five times as much which is where the costs come in.

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rite! normalize everything abnormal and awful, celebrate it as cultural progress. normalize letting the algorithms and bad actors manipulate and radicalize the youth. yup this is progress

What, pray tell, do you think is "abnormal and awful"?

How about men dressed as over the top caricatures of women that want to read books to children and dance around for them?

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I think a counter argument that makes a lot of sense to me is that our modern society is so novel, interconnected, and overstimulating, that it makes sense the prevalence of ADHD and depression have increased massively, especially compared to the populations of 50 years ago.

Perhaps it's not a "D" Disorder but a normal reaction to the malignent nature of our society.

I feel like many disorders are just a reaction to environmental factors. The brain is insanely plastic and can learn useful adaptations to survive very unnatural psychological environments. It's basically just a machine learning model being trained on bad data, the model hardware is typically fine, but the weights are going to be very messed up from only learning on atypical situations. Conditions like anxiety are productive if you're living through a famine or war. IMO therapy is basically just learning to down-weight the shitty data and up-weight the healthy data.

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> "significant negative impact" on social skills. Social skills you see them at the micro level , not at the macro level. That is after the halo effect of all the paid for publicity (plus all the abomination that is modern day social media) vanishes. Once the halo effect vanishes everybody nopes the hell out of Musk life, including his confidantes, children and wives. So he has significant negative impact on social s…

Manipulating the public and business associates in order to become worth 200+ billions of dollars seems to me to require quite a lot of social savvy. So does the regular interactions with people that go with founding a company. I think someone can be a bad spouse without necessarily suffering from a social skill disorder. And someone suffering from a social skill disorder can be a good spouse, so I don't know that di…

> Manipulating the public and business associates in order to become worth 200+ billions of dollars

It's not about manipulation and more riding an already existing wave. The tsunami of environmentalism, green everything etc.

Real bona fide manipulation is all about convincing people that YOU are the solution to each and every of their problem.

It entails jokes, touching people, pointing at people, blowing kisses, smiling a lot, playing an instrument. Most of all it has to be speeches, delivered from a stage.

Think Obama, Bill Clinton, George Bush, Reagan, Trump...

I can't take Musk seriously because he cannot speak properly. When you are a leader you cannot hide behind the bird app forever. At some point you have to go out there and hold hold the crowd in your palm like the Beatles and Led Zeppelin used to do. That to me is social skill.

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It feels as though our society has collectively forgotten that mental illness can be socially transmissible. I remember in 00s there seemed to be mainstream acknowledgement and concern that anorexia and distorted perception of one's body can be socially transmissible, ripping through teen social cliches particularly, and could be spread through the internet by "pro-ana" websites and chat groups. I don't hear much abo…

It's taboo to criticise such movements because by extension you criticise those that actually have the illness. And some movements have grown quite powerful politically. If you allude that it's problematic to let children change sex, you are painted as anti lgbtixxxx. Activism has won against science.

It’s more that the word science has been redefined.

People confuse their own preference with science. Also, because preference is political, what to research and what science is focused on is a political question.

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Most people using TitTok already have a mental disorder called "narcissism". Not so long from now, companies like Instagram, Snapchat, and TikTok would be banned for the impossible to measure but huge damage made to the society. Facebook is also evil, but for many other types of damages. And it's not like these companies don't know what they actually are causing - they perfect know to conditions they put youngster in…

> Most people using TitTok already have a mental disorder called "narcissism".

Pretty broad statement to make about an app with 1B+ monthly active users. Are 7% of the world's population narcissistic?

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It's taboo to criticise such movements because by extension you criticise those that actually have the illness. And some movements have grown quite powerful politically. If you allude that it's problematic to let children change sex, you are painted as anti lgbtixxxx. Activism has won against science.

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Most people who are against sex change operations for children are not transphobic, they just know that children don’t understand lifelong consequences and are trying to muddle through.

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> Being lgbt isn’t a mental illness. Not medically speaking, anyway. Medically defining what an "illness" is can get into a lot of squirrely philosophical questions that aren't really scientifically or objectively answerable. We basically just define a mental illness as something that significantly impairs your ability to function happily in life. If society, in general, is intolerant and hostile to you due to that o…

ADHD I have some experience with and can agree with you. I think it is mostly just a different mode of thinking that simply isn’t very compatible with sitting in a chair for hours listening to boring lectures. OCD is similar. The mental line between crippling OCD and a highly successful professional career with a reputation of being a “perfectionist” is a thin one. I’ve seen this line crossed, with tragic results… Al…

ADHD here at a higher level of disability. It's way more than a different mode of thinking. It's crippling and the reason I can barely function in any work setting. Medication and therapy throughout my life, since I was 2, only got me to this level. Without it I'd of probably been dead years ago from just following every impulse and getting myself in situations where I'm way over my head and way too stressed to deal with anything.
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