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Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by mehlmao »

lelandfe wrote: post #298
thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #15

"there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down." It lasted less than three years and will leave players with nothing to show. This is what people were predicting when Stadia lauched and part of the reason why it had poor adoption.

> Q: If the Stadia service is discontinued, do we know what (if anything) will happen with game purchases? > Andrey Doronichev, then Stadia Director of Product: > We get this a lot. I hear you. Moving to the cloud is scary. I felt the same way when music was transitioning from files to streaming. I still have all my old CDs in the garage… although it's hard to find a CD player these days :) > The same happened to Mov…

Thanks, I googled for a minute trying to find that quote but couldn't remember it exactly.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by awill »

lelandfe wrote: post #298
thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #15

"there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down." It lasted less than three years and will leave players with nothing to show. This is what people were predicting when Stadia lauched and part of the reason why it had poor adoption.

> Q: If the Stadia service is discontinued, do we know what (if anything) will happen with game purchases? > Andrey Doronichev, then Stadia Director of Product: > We get this a lot. I hear you. Moving to the cloud is scary. I felt the same way when music was transitioning from files to streaming. I still have all my old CDs in the garage… although it's hard to find a CD player these days :) > The same happened to Mov…

The top reply to this is excellent. It's ignorant to compare cloud gaming, where you NEED the cloud to play that game license, to docs/photos etc.. where you can download them if the cloud service shuts down.

Everyone on HN predicted this, and the only way I would have ever trusted Stadia would be with a CEO-level promise of refunding all purchases if they shut down within 10 years.

That's honestly the magic of Nvidia's streaming service. You're paying for the streaming, not the game. You then link your Steam account and play. So if Nvidia's streaming service shuts down, I still have the games I paid for in steam. It's genius, and the only way I'd ever consider paying for cloud gaming. While I don't like the Xbox game pass method, as you own nothing, at least you're renting and not buying, so you're not technically losing anything if you leave or they shut down.

It was utterly shocking that Google did not copy Nvidia's streaming games bough on other stores idea, especially with so many people are fearful of a Google shutdown.

It's also a mystery to me why Valve hasn't done what Nvidia did. Presumably they will at some point. Unless they don't want to risk other cloud providers from pulling their games from steam.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by paulmd »

nwatson wrote: post #434
Schroedingersat wrote: post #344

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just google. See playsforsure, amazon drive etc

Yeah I just noticed Amazon Drive is going away. No more uploads after 2023 January, no more access for non-photo/video files some time toward end of 2023. Years ago I got tired of the mess that was Google Picasa and transferred all photos, videos, and most important docs to Amazon Drive. Now I need to find yet another service.

Listen sir, cloud storage is forever, it frees you from having to worry about the details of having to store your files like you would have to with physical storage. Just upload once and they'll be there forever. Pinky swear.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by Macha »

ineedasername wrote: post #475
bushbaba wrote: post #366

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sundar is doing what the shareholders want. Grow ads revenue while distracting regulators from a google anti trust lawsuit.

I don't know, I'm not sure that's sustainable in the long term. They need to branch out, even if it's just to find new places to put ads-- like in streaming games. But they never fully commit. Strong hyped launch, not follow through. Google has more than enough resources that they should have been able to get major game publishers to sign on to allow owners of their games on l, say, Steam to freely game access on Sta…

Note that most of the GOG free license games are games which GOG, or their parent company CD Projekt, had a stake in, either as developer, publisher or porter

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by olyjohn »

cuteboy19 wrote: post #408
solardev wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. Lol I'm just imagining a company trying to use their chat services. "OK guys sorry, I know we just did this three weeks ago, but they've launched a new chat service and are deprecating the old one. Yeah, again. What's new? Uh... there's a new logo this time. And you can install it as a progressive web app."

They overcompensate by plugging chat functionality in every app. Maps, GPay India and Drive all have chat features

Wait, there's chat in Google Maps? What?!

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by 8organicbits »

lelandfe wrote: post #298
thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #15

"there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down." It lasted less than three years and will leave players with nothing to show. This is what people were predicting when Stadia lauched and part of the reason why it had poor adoption.

> Q: If the Stadia service is discontinued, do we know what (if anything) will happen with game purchases? > Andrey Doronichev, then Stadia Director of Product: > We get this a lot. I hear you. Moving to the cloud is scary. I felt the same way when music was transitioning from files to streaming. I still have all my old CDs in the garage… although it's hard to find a CD player these days :) > The same happened to Mov…

> Exactly how we've been doing with gMail, Docs, Music, Movies and Photos.

Assuming the rumor about Stadia is true, then in hindsight, this is directly tarnishing the reputation of those other products. Every canceled product does, but it's strange to see it in writing. Although I wouldn't give this comment much weight, it's clearly dodging the answer.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by tmp_anon_22 »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #369
goldenchrome wrote: post #358

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He did. And before that he was in AR/VR. I know a few execs who have done similar hops: jumping from one hype space to the next in the hopes that one of them disrupts the whole industry and they get launched up in their career. A sort of VC fund with an investment size of one, yourself.

Nothing wrong with that. You owe nothing to the company. The company won’t be loyal to you, why should you be loyal to it?

Until someone looks in that employee's wake and sees one dumpster fire after another and the employee being the common denominator. These people aren't just jumping from hype space to hype space, they are torching each of those projects to extract short term gains to the detriment of the teams under them.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by ratherbefuddled »

The technology has been rock solid for me. It really is good enough to be a console killer anywhere there is fibre.

The failure here is marketing and under investing in AAA games. If they'd poured money into publishers other than just Ubi or partnered with Valve on making steam libraries playable it could have changed the industry particularly given the supply chain issues with gaming pc components.

What a waste.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by olyjohn »

camel_Snake wrote: post #395
thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #15

"there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down." It lasted less than three years and will leave players with nothing to show. This is what people were predicting when Stadia lauched and part of the reason why it had poor adoption.

I absolutely buy that Stadia might be getting shut down, but I really don't think the underlying tech is going anywhere. Google wants to white-label the service as Google Stream or something similar - they've done this already with T-Mobile[0]. If I had to guess, they'll shut down Stadia as a platform but keep the tech alive, rebrand, give everyone new URLs to play the games they've already purchased. Kinda similar t…

> give everyone new URLs to play the games they've already purchased.

Call my cynical. But I don't see this happening.

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