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Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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It is highly unethical to take away copies of the game that players had to pay full price for. Stadia owes them a retail copy of the games they purchased.

What we need is a portable digital license. Like a card we can store in a sort of internet wallet and present to storefronts to get access to a game. That way publishers wouldn’t be able to bully customers to the extent they currently do. No way the gaming community would be opposed to such a thing.

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Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Wasted money buying Borderlands 3 on Stadia, mostly because my old PC couldn't run it and I wanted to play it. And while it did run fine in the cloud, I always wondered what would happen if the service shut down. Now I know.

For the sake of comparison, there are games I purchased on PlayStation Network for PS3 almost 10 years ago, and they all still work. The PS3 is a 15-year old console discontinued ages ago, yet the games work as they did the day I downloaded them.

Now I know. BTW, I have a PS3 from 2010 and all the PSN downloaded games still work, despite PSN itself being

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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This is why I don't sign on to anything new google does for a few years now. It's going to be buggy but promising initially, then be poorly supported, and then be cancelled leaving you high and dry. If I was a large shareholder I'd be yelling to ditch Sundar everyday. The guy is a total idiot just floating by on ads dollars. Google could be so much more if they reorganized into conventional dedicated teams and stoppe…

Yeah, I'm always very skeptical of new Google services. I use GSuite and Chromebooks, but I know those are heavily used internally at Google and I believe that they'll continue to invest in those. But every other service, nah. Between their inability to provide support while a service is up and their consistent lack of long term vision/ investment for the services they create, it's just not worth it. I can't imagine…

Exactly. Lol I'm just imagining a company trying to use their chat services. "OK guys sorry, I know we just did this three weeks ago, but they've launched a new chat service and are deprecating the old one. Yeah, again. What's new? Uh... there's a new logo this time. And you can install it as a progressive web app."

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Have you looked into using Geforce Now with your friend? It's a fantastic service and works on OSX.

Yes, used this before Stadia and it was rubbish. No where near as good and as stable as Stadia, also the monthly fee is a pain. With Stadia you can just buy the game and then play when you want, I don't think there is anything else like that.

That’s likely just Google burning cash to attract users though. Unsustainable.

The cloud time is the expensive part and most of the purchase price is likely going to go to the publisher. How many hours of gameplay before they’ve lost money on your purchase?

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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"there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down." It lasted less than three years and will leave players with nothing to show. This is what people were predicting when Stadia lauched and part of the reason why it had poor adoption.

> Q: If the Stadia service is discontinued, do we know what (if anything) will happen with game purchases? > Andrey Doronichev, then Stadia Director of Product: > We get this a lot. I hear you. Moving to the cloud is scary. I felt the same way when music was transitioning from files to streaming. I still have all my old CDs in the garage… although it's hard to find a CD player these days :) > The same happened to Mov…

Funny as stadia might have seen huge adoption IF they didn’t have a reputation of killing services and leaving the service user to hang.

Killing of stadia only reaffirms peoples fear to use google products. This includes GCP.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

#356
False rumor or not, Stadia has very little market fit.

It's no solution for budget gamers. You still need to pay for the services, the individual games and need to have an excellent network connection to make it usable. It's not exactly a solution for the "poor".

It's not really a solution for most casual/infrequent gamers either. Most high-end games are not casual games, they require a time investment. Plus, in this case there's hefty competition from mobile games, which is highly social: everybody's playing the same viral game none of which are on Stadia.

For the frequent gamer not on a budget, a Playstation/Xbox is affordable and in fact heavily subsidized. A one time purchase with a typical life span of 7 years. No latency issues and a vastly superior catalog of games.

This leaves...whom? A small audience of ex-PC gamers perhaps, tired of PC woes (loud, constant upgrades).

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Actually, this strategy works for google. Google enters these markets and then kills it for any possible future competitors. In the short run, it's a loss, in the long run, you nullify new possible competitors.

> Actually, this strategy works for google. Google enters these markets and then kills it for any possible future competitors. In the short run, it's a loss, in the long run, you nullify new possible competitors. They're no longer in the market. Now others are also slow to enter the market, in this case video game streaming as a service, and it's good for Google? This new product market isn't a core competency for Go…

What? The streaming games market started way before Google (OnLive, Sony, etc.) and now it's mostly Nvidia and Microsoft. Google entered late, never invested much in it, never advertised much... they just totally botched the execution and their competitors got all the players. Nvidia's service is getting better all the time.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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> Q: If the Stadia service is discontinued, do we know what (if anything) will happen with game purchases? > Andrey Doronichev, then Stadia Director of Product: > We get this a lot. I hear you. Moving to the cloud is scary. I felt the same way when music was transitioning from files to streaming. I still have all my old CDs in the garage… although it's hard to find a CD player these days :) > The same happened to Mov…

Seems like he left and got into Crypto? https://www.linkedin.com/in/doronichev/

He did. And before that he was in AR/VR. I know a few execs who have done similar hops: jumping from one hype space to the next in the hopes that one of them disrupts the whole industry and they get launched up in their career.

A sort of VC fund with an investment size of one, yourself.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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> Q: If the Stadia service is discontinued, do we know what (if anything) will happen with game purchases? > Andrey Doronichev, then Stadia Director of Product: > We get this a lot. I hear you. Moving to the cloud is scary. I felt the same way when music was transitioning from files to streaming. I still have all my old CDs in the garage… although it's hard to find a CD player these days :) > The same happened to Mov…

Seems like he left and got into Crypto? https://www.linkedin.com/in/doronichev/

>Former Director of Product at Stadia.

>Former Director of Product at Google AR/VR.

>Former Head of Mobile, Group PM at YouTube.

Ouch.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

#360
Unsubstantiated rumours can make the front page now? For shame.

I mean, I think it will likely shut down before too long, but this article adds no useful information or even opinion, just hearsay.

Here’s a question: does Google have a reputation for killing off products in wider circles, not just among tech insiders? That is, does the average person really care about this stuff?

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