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Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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ctvo wrote: post #252
Qahlel wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, this strategy works for google. Google enters these markets and then kills it for any possible future competitors. In the short run, it's a loss, in the long run, you nullify new possible competitors.

> Actually, this strategy works for google. Google enters these markets and then kills it for any possible future competitors. In the short run, it's a loss, in the long run, you nullify new possible competitors. They're no longer in the market. Now others are also slow to enter the market, in this case video game streaming as a service, and it's good for Google? This new product market isn't a core competency for Go…

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Post by bdefore »

technofiend wrote: post #137

I can't think of any other service from Google that's more weirdly polarizing, although Google's Pixel phones probably run a close second. People either find Stadia useful and say they use it regularly, or they hate it to the point they seemingly spend their days telling everyone how terrible Stadia is, how it was doomed from the start, how investing in the platform is a waste of time and money, etc. Oddly, you get t…

That's an odd comparison. Unlike Stadia, if the Pixel phone division shuts down you still have a working phone.

Forums will be forums and the trolls get the spotlight. Pixel phones, particularly the cheaper 'a' models, are very popular and good value. What significant things are much better on non-Google Android phones?

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Post by roody15 »

harha wrote: post #249
Qahlel wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, this strategy works for google. Google enters these markets and then kills it for any possible future competitors. In the short run, it's a loss, in the long run, you nullify new possible competitors.

That only plays out if you offer anything to customers once the competitors are gone. Also: there’s still PlayStation, Xbox and even Apple Arcade doing perfectly fine in this space

Is Apple Arcade doing fine? In my small world I don’t know a single person who uses it.

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Post by Retric »

sithadmin wrote: post #232
josefx wrote: post #172

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> I wouldn't call Stadia a joke What kind of gaming platform randomly bans high profile game devs. because an automated Youtube bot told them to? A bad joke of one. > It does in fact work quite well. Didn't they fake high res video streams by up scaling bad renders? Haven't used it but as far as I understand there was quite a bit of overpromising and underdelivering going on. > other first-party console alternatives,…

Google's auto-ban/content moderation issues are a separate issue from the tech, which is fine. I never noticed issues with resolution or rendering, and haven't heard complaints about it from friends who tried it. We all ended up abandoning Stadia due to there being better options elsewhere, not because Stadia itself (aside from game selection perhaps) was bad.

Customers are paying for a service not just tech. Google makes some great tech demos, but seemingly has no idea what to do after that. They are really bad at providing services for money and auto-ban, game selection etc are all symptoms of the same issue.

Which is why Stadia is a bad joke.

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Post by lelandfe »

thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #15

"there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down." It lasted less than three years and will leave players with nothing to show. This is what people were predicting when Stadia lauched and part of the reason why it had poor adoption.

> Q: If the Stadia service is discontinued, do we know what (if anything) will happen with game purchases?

> Andrey Doronichev, then Stadia Director of Product:

> We get this a lot. I hear you. Moving to the cloud is scary. I felt the same way when music was transitioning from files to streaming. I still have all my old CDs in the garage… although it's hard to find a CD player these days :)

> The same happened to Movies and Photos and my Docs and other files… And it’s great! Games are no different. Eventually all of our games will be safely in the cloud too and we'll feel great about it.

> [..]

> Of course, it’s ok to doubt my words. Theres nothing I can say now to make you believe if you don't. But what we can do is to launch the service and continue investing in it for years to come. Exactly how we've been doing with gMail, Docs, Music, Movies and Photos. That’s exactly what we’re committed to.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Stadia/comments/ceuy4w/hi_im_andrey...

(I've been holding onto this bookmark for a while)

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by jeffbee »

SilverBirch wrote: post #114
jeffbee wrote: post #77

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Do you think senior leadership was involved? It seems just as likely that some platforms engineers figured they could mess around with hardware on the edge and got it shipped from the bottom up.

No, they had a huge push behind it at one point, they even had internal game development studios and hired inhouse game devs, which they then proceeded to fire less than 18 months later. That's right, from new platform to fired in less than 18 months. It's a shameful way to run a company.

I know they put the full force of the machine behind it, it's just not obvious to me that the reason they did it came from the top, or was even known to the top, versus just being an emergent phenomenon.

I think people ascribe way too much agency to corporate executives.

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Post by lenova »

I'd like to be a counterpoint for the Stadia bashing here:

I'm not much of a gamer, but I've always been interested in playing Red Dead Redemption 2. However, I neither had a console nor a PC with a decent enough graphics card.

This spring, I picked up a Google TV with Chromecast, and realized I could pair any bluetooth device with it. I bought a cheapo PS4-like controller off of Amazon, saw that RDR2 was on sale on Stadia, and gave it a shot.

I have to say, the experience was quite pleasing. No need for an expensive/out-of-stock graphics card. No need for a dedicated console. If feels like a great solution for a casual gamer. Overall, I've been impressed with the experience, and haven't experienced any lag or game stutters. Heck, it even plays Cyberpunk smoothly!

Stadia definitely lacks in terms of marketing and game library, but I feel like it's a concept that works.

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