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The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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You're not helping. Maybe try and ask a question or contribute some knowledge. This person is misinformed and all you're doing is cement his beliefs that his opponents are clueless and spiteful.

There is a difference between misinformed, and being an intentional troll.

He's not, you're just feeling triggered.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Yeah, that’s a lie. Try having what used to be the standard opinion about a certain topic less than 10 years ago and expect to be banned. Not just by moderators but by admins.

Give an example - you can do that here.

I had comments removed, temp suspensions, and then a permanent suspension in one of the main covid related subs because I wasn’t agreeing with the hive mind around the effectiveness of “face coverings.”

Not only was my main account suspended, they banned my 2 alt accounts as well as my wife’s account. Any account that logged in from my home IP was permanently suspended without recourse.

All because I said “i don’t think masks are as effective as you guys do” in a covid sub.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Maybe one day when a bank permabans you after you've put years of money into it, and then they just reclaim all of your credits, and the reason they give you is only that "you promoted your business in a sub and that's not allowed on this tiny part of reddit" and that is against "Rule #12" on a random subreddit that didn't even publish the rule... You probably still won't understand the ideal of how people regularly…

You just don't get all your accounts permabanned from Reddit by not following "Rule #12" in one subreddit. You can post pretty disturbing shit and still not even get your NSFW account blocked, nevermind having all your accounts permbanned by IP.

You can do it by “abusing the report feature” even if the reports are accurate, apparently.

Pretty sure that they just let an AI do it. There’s nobody actually checking or answering the appeals.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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I cannot buy into a wholesale generalization that mods are power tripping people who deserve our contempt because they are lonely. There’s all kinds of motivations for being a mod. I rarely find a sub where mods aren’t dealing with far more BS than they are putting out. If I don’t agree with how mods handle a channel, I leave. I think it’s important that we question the usefulness of blaming society for the lack of q…

You are automatically banned from some subs if you comment/post in other blacklisted, "rival" communities. Let this sink in.

Post in /r/lockdownskepticism or pretty much any of the subs questioning the covid19 narrative and the same thing happens. Like 50 subs.

Getting banned from the covid-19 subs is also frighteningly easy as well. Any question about vaccine effectiveness or questioning “face coverings” and you’ll either get buried, comment removed, or banned outright.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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As someone who was involved with many internet communities long before reddit, it sounds like the author is just experiencing the eternal September[0]. Pretty much since the day I found out about reddit in... 2008-ish?, everyone in the online communities I knew thought it was filled with awful pseudointellectual teenagers and college students, that the upvote/downvote system was horrible and encouraged people to post…

You're looking at it all wrong. Kind of through the lens of an narcissist. Not nearly as many people have had the opportunity to even become "full" intellectuals. The irony here is that while the world burns, the easiest solution is raising that bar for them by challenging them and leading them into better paradigms, through interaction and debate or even arguments. Without your presence amongst the people on that pl…

Free education services is a niche not anyone interested in or good at. Its normal to expect interesting people to be (not to be educated by me) online with current internet penetration

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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‘Woke’ just means, open to the idea that the way you behave may have unintended negative effects on other, potentially disadvantaged folks and it’s worth changing the way you behave in these circumstances. So also - empathy. I’m pretty proud to be called woke, and so should you be.

Manners, being courteous, polite and as you've said empathetic - these good behaviours all existed. That took parents to teach and individuals to act accordingly. It is a modern myth spread by main stream media that racism and sexism are prevalent. "Woke" (or "wokeness") is weaponised world view that is intolerant and dangerous.

> It is a modern myth spread by main stream media that racism and sexism are prevalent.

As a 50-something heterosexual white guy, I think you have to close your eyes really tight, stick your finger in your ears and shout ‘ nah nah nah’ repeatedly to believe that is true.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Woke refers to an ideology that, among other things, uses manipulative arguments, framing and emotional appeals to hide the fact that it is intellectual quicksand, serving people who want to morally elevate themselves without substance. Exactly like you just did.

From Wikipedia: Woke is an English adjective meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination" that originated in African-American Vernacular English (AAVE). Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as sexism, and has also been used as shorthand for American Left ideas involving identity politics and social justice, such as the notion of white privilege and sla…

> Being woke means understanding "Hip hip hurray" is a deeply antisemitic slur regarding the Hep-Hep riots in 19c Germany where many thousands of recently-freed Jews were lynched.

There is no consensus on the obscure origins of the expression - either way calling it a "deeply antisemitic slur" is baseless.

You're taking this a bit far.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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post #278

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> lack of individual identifiers beyond usernames, like avatars and signatures from a typical internet forum of the day. I wonder if this is done on purpose, to nudge people into thinking of individual users not as people but as voices of a "hivemind". Even today, usernames are de-emphasized in the UI in contrast to names of threads or subreddits. That's most prominent on the front-page ("r/all") where posts don't sh…

Some redditors use Reddit Enhancement Suite. > - How many engaging conversations have you had on HN in the last year? - None that I remember, thank goodness. One man's conversations are another man's flame wars. > - How many people do you know on HN? - At the very least, knowing HN users' affiliations and posting tendencies is key to quickly blocking unwanted ideological noise, whether it concerns international polit…

> - At the very least, knowing HN users' affiliations and posting tendencies is key to quickly blocking unwanted ideological noise, whether it concerns international politics or programming languages

This is IMO the approach that makes the most sense. Let users ignore other users, rather than enforcing bans/shadowbans on the whole userbase.

While I personally would rather not block anyone, I think everyone should have the ability to police the content they see, but in most cases not what other people see.

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