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The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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And yet that can also be valid - the /r/teen sub, which is meant as a safe place for teenagers to talk, bans people who've posted in creepy subs - do you disagree with that?

That’s the wrong question to ask. The right question is, for every creepy person caught by that, how many are there who are smart enough to make a new account? The premise of creating via raw moderator power, a safe space for teenagers on an anonymous internet forum that encourages throwaway accounts is ridiculous.

I imagine the calculus involved would say it’s far better to create a safe space for teenagers and rid would be creeps than allow entry for non-teenagers in a space not even meant for them.

It would be like getting mad that a school prom doesn’t allow any adults inside. I’m sure there are good adults , but I doubt the intention of random adults and would rather have a whitelist of what adults are allowed.

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I have a different take: The main problem with reddit is in how badly it's bungled its several different redesigns over the last few years, and how it's slowly ruined its users' experience in misguided attempts to drive mobile traffic to its app. Right now, here's the process for browsing a subreddit on mobile without the (ads and tracking loaded) reddit app: 1. Navigate to subreddit. Find out which of two (non-NSFW)…

> Give up, and go to old.reddit.com, which is ugly and not designed for mobile, but at least works okay. Wait, are you kidding? I thought you were talking about using it on desktop. New reddit is literally unusable on mobile. This is what it looks like for me ( https://imgur.com/a/pa07d2c ). New reddit isn’t just unusable, it is literally nonfunctional. I can only imagine it’s been deliberately destroyed to drive peo…

Yep I quit after I couldn't browse some video game sub in the browser because it was marked "NSFW". Having to manually go in and change the subdomain is doable, but gets obnoxious over and over again especially as I hate mobile text editing.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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I'm permabanned from Reddit, as in all my accounts (yes, I let it get so bad I had multiple accounts) and any new accounts (yep... tried making more) are banned based on previous logins and IPs (they're actually pretty thorough with it). Some mods are power tripping, but also the value of a user is now near-zero. As long as you don't piss off too many, your subreddit will be fine. Especially for popular keywords - it…

Honestly, I'm not sure if anyone is really interested in advice from someone who somehow managed to get permabanned on reddit.

Frankly, I’d be more interested in the advice they offered, but then again I am not afraid of reading controversial non-PC opinions and have the intellectual and emotional capability to discern right from wrong.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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There are still pockets of sanity here and there, if you know where to look, but otherwise it has become a huge propaganda machine. /r/worldnews is now basically a continuation of whatever Washington DC holds as true when it comes to US foreign policy, the same goes for /politics (when it comes to US domestic politics) and most of the subs related to the current war in Ukraine.

Ukraine is a puppet of the US! Russia is only defending itself right?

If you think close to 7 million refugees and 20 to 25% of the territory lost for good is a good outcome for Ukraine then, yeah, you're right. Ukraine wouldn't have had those 7 million refugees and 20 to 25% of its territory lost if it had not been led to believe accession into the Western sphere of influence was possible. It is not. That policy was carried out, in part, by Western media entities.

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I'm sure Aaron was thinking of ridiculing fat people, fascism, revenge porn, jailbait or your right to hate the gays when he said he was concerned about corporate tyranny.

On the other hand it's full of Americans touting their free speech is true like no other country on earth and blah blah, so I guess, free speech except for those you disagree with

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

There’s nothing in there about Reddit making moderation policies

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Give an example - you can do that here.

One word: transgender. Any light criticism or joke results in a subreddit and site wide ban.

Yup, just look at the recent r/tumblrinaction and r/socialjusticeinaction bans. The reason given for the bans were "promoting hate"

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Fair point. I shouldn't have made a silly joke about the name of that group when my real point was about the much bigger left-wing protest movement that peaked in 2016. The best example is perhaps the occupation of the Wisconsin state capital: > Thousands of protesters rushed to the … Capitol Wednesday night, forcing their way through doors, crawling through windows and jamming corridors...thousands of pro-union acti…

> my real point was about the much bigger left-wing protest movement that peaked in 2016. I'm not sure why you keep mentioning 2016? The Wisconsin protests were also in 2011. Anyway, in Wisconsin they were protesting a proposed bill. It wasn't a coup attempt. I'm actually a Wisconsinite, so I'm very familiar with this. If you read the linked Wisconsin State Journal article, you'll see that the protests were peaceful.…

That article includes quite a few quotes from union leaders and protestors, none from supporters of the bill. The same journal published several articles opposing the bill. Its bias is obvious and undeniable.

And that bias is probably why it fails to mention the death threats, violent rhetoric, chalk outlines, forcing lawmakers to flee, etc.

All that in order to stop, not merely protest, passage of the bill.

If we're to believe that lawmakers in Washington were in danger on January 6th, despite the complete absence of any violence against lawmakers, we should also believe the lawmakers in Madison were in danger. Death threats should be taken seriously regardless of partisanship.

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the day the get rid of old.reddit.com I'll be gone looking for something more to my liking. The retro reddit is the best reddit.

I first started using reddit in around 2015, so I never experienced the old reddit design when it was default. I tried old.reddit.com the other day, but I found it almost unbearable. not being used to it, I found it ugly and messy and overloaded with text. it loads twice as fast, though, and doesn't prioritise images over information, so I see the upside, but I do think a lot of the commentary here is nostalgia and j…

The redesign was in 2018 so I'm not sure about that timeline

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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As someone who was involved with many internet communities long before reddit, it sounds like the author is just experiencing the eternal September[0]. Pretty much since the day I found out about reddit in... 2008-ish?, everyone in the online communities I knew thought it was filled with awful pseudointellectual teenagers and college students, that the upvote/downvote system was horrible and encouraged people to post…

I've been on Reddit since 2008 myself and was an avid user of forums etc for years before that. When I started on Reddit there was already an element of things having changed, a move away from niche technology discussion towards lowest common denominator stuff and discussion by meme. In general this was fine as you could just move to smaller subreddits, and the bigger pages had fun cultures that permeated the others…

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Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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So you're against treating people with respect and dignity? That's what your little "woke" slur means.

Woke refers to an ideology that, among other things, uses manipulative arguments, framing and emotional appeals to hide the fact that it is intellectual quicksand, serving people who want to morally elevate themselves without substance. Exactly like you just did.

From Wikipedia:

Woke is an English adjective meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination" that originated in African-American Vernacular English (AAVE). Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as sexism, and has also been used as shorthand for American Left ideas involving identity politics and social justice, such as the notion of white privilege and slavery reparations for African Americans.

The phrase stay woke had emerged in AAVE by the 1930s, in some contexts referring to an awareness of the social and political issues affecting African Americans. The phrase was uttered in a recording by Lead Belly and later by Erykah Badu. Following the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri in 2014, the phrase was popularised by Black Lives Matter (BLM) activists seeking to raise awareness about police shootings of African Americans. After seeing use on Black Twitter, the term woke became an Internet meme and was increasingly used by white people, often to signal their support for BLM, which some commentators have criticised as cultural appropriation. Mainly associated with the millennial generation, the term spread internationally and was added to the Oxford English Dictionary in 2017.

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Being woke means that serving watermelon and fried chicken and collard greens on Juneteenth is an insult. (looking at the Children's Museum of Indianapolis)

Being woke means understanding why "Circling the wagons" when around Native Americans would be a terrible insult.

Being woke means understanding calling something a "cakewalk" brings up slave-history in the south where African Americans were forced to walk around and whoever "won" got a cake.

Being woke means understanding the child's song "knick knack paddywhack, give a dog a bone" is referring to watching Irish die in the Famine, and would rather give a dog the cast-offs rather than the Irish.

Being woke means understanding "Hip hip hurray" is a deeply antisemitic slur regarding the Hep-Hep riots in 19c Germany where many thousands of recently-freed Jews were lynched.

Remembering and understanding these historically terrible sayings are bad to you and your fellow anti-woke people. Naturally, these sayings require a bit of maturity, intelligence, and understanding to see why these phrases are terrible - and not everyone practices in using those faculties on a regular basis. It all comes down to the same core beliefs: "my race/sex/demographic is superior, and theirs is subservient to mine."

There are other terms for being "anti-woke". They usually wore white pointy hats, burned crosses in "undesirables" yards, and arranged public executions via tree and rope.

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