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The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Because the right wing were organising insurrections?

Do people really unironically believe that?

That's pretty disingenuous, considering that the House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack is currently headline news.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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I have a different take: The main problem with reddit is in how badly it's bungled its several different redesigns over the last few years, and how it's slowly ruined its users' experience in misguided attempts to drive mobile traffic to its app. Right now, here's the process for browsing a subreddit on mobile without the (ads and tracking loaded) reddit app: 1. Navigate to subreddit. Find out which of two (non-NSFW)…

> Give up, and go to old.reddit.com, which is ugly and not designed for mobile, but at least works okay.

Wait, are you kidding? I thought you were talking about using it on desktop. New reddit is literally unusable on mobile. This is what it looks like for me (https://imgur.com/a/pa07d2c). New reddit isn’t just unusable, it is literally nonfunctional. I can only imagine it’s been deliberately destroyed to drive people away from the web over to the app. They do something similar with links. All links from new reddit have their underscores "escaped" with \. Basically they corrupt the URL. If you’re on old reddit, you get these bad links and have to fix them yourself, but new reddit does it for you, of course.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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As someone who was involved with many internet communities long before reddit, it sounds like the author is just experiencing the eternal September[0]. Pretty much since the day I found out about reddit in... 2008-ish?, everyone in the online communities I knew thought it was filled with awful pseudointellectual teenagers and college students, that the upvote/downvote system was horrible and encouraged people to post…

Reddit is hijacking content by requiring it to be hosted on it's own CDN... It's one of the main reasons why they put up walls. Many reddit users are actively involved in content and credit theft as well, but no one knows about how deep it runs. In a world where creators are going unviewed from IG to TikTok, there is literally an underground repost network that literally steals and reposts content to claim credit and…

I’m confused. Reddit user steals content from Tiktok. They upload it to Reddit’s CDN. How does the Reddit user get paid for this?

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Because the right wing were organising insurrections?

Do people really unironically believe that?

It's a convenient excuse. The reality is that the admins are continually clamping down on subreddits they don't like, without any justification or consistency.

For example, one is left to wonder why /r/drama was forced to shut down because the admins considered them a nuisance, yet left-leaning subreddits engaging in vote-brigading and other equally disruptive behaviour are still around.

I'd be remiss to claim that it's purely a left vs. right thing. But if the Aimee Challenor debacle was any indication, they have a clear list of people they like and people they don't like. And if they don't like you, for whatever reason, they eject you from the platform without any recourse.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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You are automatically banned from some subs if you comment/post in other blacklisted, "rival" communities. Let this sink in.

Very few communities do that, and you generally aren't missing out getting banned from them anyway.

Default subs are doing this. It's one thing if a small sub does strange things, but if a massive sub that explicitly recommend by Reddit acts like this (for years now!), it sends a pretty clear message.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Reddit is hijacking content by requiring it to be hosted on it's own CDN... It's one of the main reasons why they put up walls. Many reddit users are actively involved in content and credit theft as well, but no one knows about how deep it runs. In a world where creators are going unviewed from IG to TikTok, there is literally an underground repost network that literally steals and reposts content to claim credit and…

I’m confused. Reddit user steals content from Tiktok. They upload it to Reddit’s CDN. How does the Reddit user get paid for this?

Highly upvoted accounts are more valuable and can be sold

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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As someone who was involved with many internet communities long before reddit, it sounds like the author is just experiencing the eternal September[0]. Pretty much since the day I found out about reddit in... 2008-ish?, everyone in the online communities I knew thought it was filled with awful pseudointellectual teenagers and college students, that the upvote/downvote system was horrible and encouraged people to post…

It depends on the specific subreddit. It makes some sense that the largest subs would succumb to eternal September, but there are plenty of small niche subs that haven't.

I agree though that just about all changes made to the reddit website itself have been for the worse. Perhaps the story of digg.com will play out again?

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Reddit is hijacking content by requiring it to be hosted on it's own CDN... It's one of the main reasons why they put up walls. Many reddit users are actively involved in content and credit theft as well, but no one knows about how deep it runs. In a world where creators are going unviewed from IG to TikTok, there is literally an underground repost network that literally steals and reposts content to claim credit and…

I’m confused. Reddit user steals content from Tiktok. They upload it to Reddit’s CDN. How does the Reddit user get paid for this?

(Theoretically only, just opinion, not fact of course by any means) Mods could potentially get paid by building popularity of their sub through reposting popular content that gets upvoted. They then could charge other users and sponsors for prime placement and promotion within their subs all arranged possibly offline. Reddit normally collects money off the activity through the ad revenue generated by page views and ad loading, and through sales of ads purchased by platform users... It may not seem like a lot of money until you really understand how much traffic the site gets, and how much mods and corporate on reddit can control and even script what kinds of content makes it to the top/front of pages.

Also there's always old payment methods where crypto/NFT/digital payment services or even a bag of cash can be used under the table, though nobody can or would want to prove that of course, and of course it's not presented as fact because I have no stake whatsoever in reddit nor desire to see it made less skewed like it used to be in the past.... I've already given up on it myself, long ago when they banned me for no reason and took my sub.

Look carefully at each video you watch on any platform from now on for what products, slogans, and logos are placed in them, and the links/comments that are posted in the comments. There is advertising going on in the majority of reddit posts for something, even if most people don't know it. A lot of the time, even the music used in content is often being subtly imprinted across multiple sites so that it becomes an ear worm as a low-key psychological marketing tactic.

Many major companies are putting out completely engineered "low budget" home videos as ads, they're no longer marking paid ad posts as sponsored, and companies are regularly hiring the most popular and trusted creators to inject subtle advertising cues into otherwise organic looking viral videos. I'm pretty sure that most of what we see on social platforms with paid advertising options now is either staged/funded/enlisted/sponsored production, bot driven content, or low key psychological marketing. This does not include HN based on what I've observed, because they don't sell ad-based post boosting (as far as I know).

OC creators struggle often in futility to break past algorithm ratios just to be seen by small audiences if they don't have massive sums of money to pay for advertising for each post they make on each platform. Getting to the front page without the right funding may be damn near impossible by now, fair enough though, there are a lot of other users competing against you that have copied your style, branding, and/or content, so "F" it, maybe we're all doomed/

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Because the right wing were organising insurrections?

Do people really unironically believe that?

Because that's true. When American democracy is no more, and a republican administration has denied any other political party from holding political office, remember that no one cleaned house in the American right wing, and let everyone slowly turn into the fascists.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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People complaining about Reddit remind me of that quote from Bjarne Stroustrup about computer languages: “There are only two kinds of languages: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses.” A lot of people use Reddit. I've been on since nearly the beginning and seen it go through various phases. They started getting serious about moderation after Gamergate and they're still serious about it since they wa…

> I really don't know where the extreme stuff has gone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8chan and I don't visit it either because I am too old but who would want to fight qanon would probably need to. I salute them.

Besides 8chan there was Voat (and other Reddit clones). Some of the larger subreddits like /r/drama,/r/the_donald, and /r/fatpeoplehate splintered off to their own websites.
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