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The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by winternett »

jpindar wrote: post #280
winternett wrote: post #240

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It's quite possibly not the algo anymore running TikTok ... It's likely now all just a random assortment of content from whoever pays the most for ad promotions on their posts, without violating community standards and policy, and occasional celeb posts here and there... of course. The algo likely only does light duty when something bad on the platform makes the news... They have to make sure paid ads run as promised…

Its not random. I always see content related to my specific interests (as indicated by the videos I've liked, and I never see celebrity posts. In fact TikTok is widely said to have the best algorithm for determining someone's interests.

It always depends on what type of user you are... The most disgruntled people usually are people who are business owners... If you're not marketing a business or your art work for example, you have no problems and the algorithm entertains you seamlessly.

If you're someone like a musician, makeup artist, or web developer (for example) TikTok floods you with success tips, tutorials about how people went viral, with tips on pay for promotional ads on the platform, and a constant stream of thought leadership programming to keep you struggling and spending time and money on growth. It's quite hostile to anyone who just wants to develop listeners and viewers, or anyone who wants to market a product independently. Big businesses can just have a meeting with TikTok reps, pay a fee, and get prime promo placement. When you run a small business, without lots of employees, managing social media presence becomes a huge mountain to climb, and TikTok won't meat with you unless you're very popular or wealthy (and willing to spend) already.

Everyone on the platform has a different perspective, TikTok's algo is good at determining that and maximizing what can be earned from each user, but it's not fair nor transparent at all, and it creates a situation where no one can question things because there are others that will always say their TikTok experience is "going just fine". User experience all depends on the user's personas.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by tux2bsd »

richbell wrote: post #396
throw_m239339 wrote: post #378

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> This isn't true. Banning is _per-subreddit_, done by the respective mod teams. Your behaviour would need to be especially egregious for it to be picked up by the admins. Reddit will ban your IP and all accounts corresponding to that IP for alleged ban evasion of a single sub ban. So no, banning isn't per subreddit or the alleged ban avoider would be just banned solely on the specific sub they have been banned befor…

> Reddit will ban your IP and all accounts corresponding to that IP for alleged ban evasion of a single sub ban. Is this anecdotal, or do you have more information about this? In my experience the admins do not care about subreddit bans and only get involved when a person is consistently rule-breaking and evading bans. Moderators of large subreddits don't even have a direct line of commutation with the admins anymore…

You don't have enough experience to comment, you are only commenting on what you believe to be true.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by tux2bsd »

qsdf38100 wrote: post #169
tux2bsd wrote: post #23

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Hate speech is not free speech. There’s plenty of places to spread hate speech, you don’t have to go on Reddit. You don’t have to publicly blame it on "leftists" and compare it to NK. Your kind of speech isn’t welcome here.

> You don’t have to publicly blame it on "leftists" and compare it to NK.

Why not, comparison is a good way to paint picture and leftists are the bad actors in what is being discussed.

> Your kind of speech isn’t welcome here.

How very tolerant of you.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by tinco »

tux2bsd wrote: post #377
tinco wrote: post #239

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It's just a mindset, besides some minor beliefs they're just the same sort of people you are. I don't know if you'd consider me a leftist woke person, I feel that's something a younger generation is doing, and an older generation is enabling with the cancel culture and such. But I do feel the same way you do about the wokes about conservatives, when they're dismissive of climate change, when they're rejecting social…

You're parroting the beliefs of the woke so chances are high that you're woke, I hope you can turn it around. You have a very confused outlook on life that does not match reality. I'll give you some pointers: Climate change. Weather, been going on for all time. I'll pay attention when rich people abandon their seaside mansions. Taxing the poor. Tax was invented for this. The BLM movement was a farce. Nothing good cam…

Well if I am, that's a new name to describe me because I've held these beliefs for over 20 years.

You are wrong about climate change. Ask your local weather service, the weather's not what it used to be. When the rich abandon their seaside mansions, you'll be too late, because the mountain retreats they'll go to they've already bought.

No, taxing was invented to fund the government (and later expanded to counter exponential wealth consolidation, but we're not allowed to talk about that very much).

The BLM protests achieved awareness, and that's all that was needed, and that was most certainly warranted.

The c19 lock-downs have since lifted, as we're in a democracy, and a civilized society we do these things for our own good to get out of a prickly situation. I get that for you being uncomfortable for a short while was infuriating, but maybe you'll be stronger the next time around.

I'd like to believe Jesus would be happy to do safety training courses, what does that have to do with anything? Anyway, the way I hear these conservatives talk about socialism, being tolerant to one another I don't think they'd like his TikTok very much at all.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by richbell »

tux2bsd wrote: post #402
richbell wrote: post #396

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Reddit will ban your IP and all accounts corresponding to that IP for alleged ban evasion of a single sub ban. Is this anecdotal, or do you have more information about this? In my experience the admins do not care about subreddit bans and only get involved when a person is consistently rule-breaking and evading bans. Moderators of large subreddits don't even have a direct line of commutation with the admins anymore…

You don't have enough experience to comment, you are only commenting on what you believe to be true.

> You don't have enough experience to comment, you are only commenting on what you believe to be true.

I moderated dozens of large subreddits, many defaults, until a few years ago.

I'd love to know what makes you more experienced. Perhaps some concrete evidence?

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by [deleted] »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #284
Dracophoenix wrote: post #199

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> The difficult change I've seen in the past few years is the rising number of hate and harassment subs, and Reddit tolerating them. If you scroll through the top of /r/BanFemaleHateSubs or /r/AgainstDegenerateSubs you'll see how bad things have become and how unsafe the general environment is. The r/BanThisandThat subreddits are little more than morality police. Many of those posts will take statements out of contex…

Have you looked at the subs they're talking about? They're sharing collections of zip folders of girls openly advertised as as young as 13, they're stalking women via social media sending descriptions of their potential rape to their family, they're robbing women's houses and sharing their stolen belongings, they're flashing, groping and ejaculating on women in public and filming it for upvotes. Call it morality poli…

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Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by tinco »

noasaservice wrote: post #380
tux2bsd wrote: post #377

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're parroting the beliefs of the woke so chances are high that you're woke, I hope you can turn it around. You have a very confused outlook on life that does not match reality. I'll give you some pointers: Climate change. Weather, been going on for all time. I'll pay attention when rich people abandon their seaside mansions. Taxing the poor. Tax was invented for this. The BLM movement was a farce. Nothing good cam…

Is this a parody account? It's hard to believe someone on HN would be this anti-science and pro-racist as your comments have been. You're not discussing with people with sincerity. You misquote people, and then call them names because it doesn't fit with your viewpoint (whatever that is). I've flagged all your comments, because you cannot seem to behave in any reasonable capacity.

You're not helping. Maybe try and ask a question or contribute some knowledge. This person is misinformed and all you're doing is cement his beliefs that his opponents are clueless and spiteful.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by cowtools »

ziml77 wrote: post #288
mjr00 wrote: post #18

As someone who was involved with many internet communities long before reddit, it sounds like the author is just experiencing the eternal September[0]. Pretty much since the day I found out about reddit in... 2008-ish?, everyone in the online communities I knew thought it was filled with awful pseudointellectual teenagers and college students, that the upvote/downvote system was horrible and encouraged people to post…

I started using reddit in 2009 and can agree that the quality was always lacking. The posts that made it to the top were the ones that were the lowest effort to consume which quickly get repetitive and boring. The comments were often equally low effort with memes and weak jokes rising to the top. This was especially infuriating in places like /r/askreddit where the only chance of seeing replies that weren't clear fab…

I agree. I think it's fundamentally a flaw of the voting system: the idea that previous users should be able to anonymously and indirectly influence the visibility of a message or post to future users.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by [deleted] »

mjr00 wrote: post #18

As someone who was involved with many internet communities long before reddit, it sounds like the author is just experiencing the eternal September[0]. Pretty much since the day I found out about reddit in... 2008-ish?, everyone in the online communities I knew thought it was filled with awful pseudointellectual teenagers and college students, that the upvote/downvote system was horrible and encouraged people to post…

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