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The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by krapp »

leereeves wrote: post #227
dTal wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's pretty disingenuous, considering that the House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack is currently headline news.

Have people forgotten 2016 so quickly? The left had a nationwide movement named "Occupy" and the Democrats and most media approved. The right did it once and the same people all lost their minds.

Occupy was a series of legal protests, as opposed to a violent insurrectionist plot to subvert the legal transfer of power with sympathizers within the government. These are not the same.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by Macha »

multjoy wrote: post #181
ivraatiems wrote: post #12

I have a different take: The main problem with reddit is in how badly it's bungled its several different redesigns over the last few years, and how it's slowly ruined its users' experience in misguided attempts to drive mobile traffic to its app. Right now, here's the process for browsing a subreddit on mobile without the (ads and tracking loaded) reddit app: 1. Navigate to subreddit. Find out which of two (non-NSFW)…

If you use iPhone, then use Apollo. If you use Android, then Sync. The official apps have always been dire.

Note that the API doesn't provide third party clients with access to newer features like polls, chat or the new inbuilt subreddit reaction emoji. So I think that's a precursor to reddit limiting then further in the medium term

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by coffeeblack »

dTal wrote: post #211
coffeeblack wrote: post #192

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Do people really unironically believe that?

That's pretty disingenuous, considering that the House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack is currently headline news.

“Attack”? With no weapons?

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by lapcat »

ivraatiems wrote: post #12

I have a different take: The main problem with reddit is in how badly it's bungled its several different redesigns over the last few years, and how it's slowly ruined its users' experience in misguided attempts to drive mobile traffic to its app. Right now, here's the process for browsing a subreddit on mobile without the (ads and tracking loaded) reddit app: 1. Navigate to subreddit. Find out which of two (non-NSFW)…

If I may self-promote, my mobile Safari extension StopTheMadness can stop the NSFW and "get the app" popups on Reddit. It can also automatically redirect to old.reddit.com.

https://apps.apple.com/app/stopthemadness-mobile/id158308293...

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by winternett »

Capricorn2481 wrote: post #60
mjr00 wrote: post #18

As someone who was involved with many internet communities long before reddit, it sounds like the author is just experiencing the eternal September[0]. Pretty much since the day I found out about reddit in... 2008-ish?, everyone in the online communities I knew thought it was filled with awful pseudointellectual teenagers and college students, that the upvote/downvote system was horrible and encouraged people to post…

Do you feel anyone has improved upon what Reddit is doing? Or have you only found satisfaction in specific communities on specific sites? Are there non traditional communities like Tildetown that you enjoy?

The real tragedy is the shear volume of effort that made reddit the valuable resource it once was... Anyone starting a better version of that would need to wait ages before it gets populated with data, and they'd be extremely lucky if the same quality of minds contributed serious posts to it without totally and quickly devolving it into a bed of memes and clickbait now that everyone has been trained that these types of efforts really don't serve nor reward them.

Truly a missed field goal... Someone responsible should be spoken to rather harshly about this dereliction of duty, and the db should be at least reverted back to it's 2010 state. heh. :/

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by agentgumshoe »

FastMonkey wrote: post #159
agentgumshoe wrote: post #131

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I agree with this in principle, but in reality the flood of new people, influence/manipulation by organisations (political and market) and encouragement of features that reward low quality content (emotes, monetisation, etc) mean the site doesn't actually promote the environment you suggest should exist. Old fashioned forums are still far and away the best 'system' for this, they're just not 'popular' enough any more…

The solution seems to be a Goldilocks zone between popularity and death, too popular and it devolves, too unpopular and it dies. HN manages to keep itself tucked neatly into that zone I think.

And keeping a purpose. Going for 'broadest possible audience' is always a spiral to trash.

HN still keeps to its 'niche' well enough, much as forums have their usual genres that allow for clear moderation and purpose/values.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by himinlomax »

multjoy wrote: post #184
himinlomax wrote: post #140

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One word: transgender. Any light criticism or joke results in a subreddit and site wide ban.

Do you have any specific examples of the 'light criticism' or joke (including where it was posted) that directly caused the site-wide ban?

I don't, because it's immediately scrubbed. But I've seen it happen ine real time.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by himinlomax »

PartiallyTyped wrote: post #160
himinlomax wrote: post #142

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You immediately get a dozen ban notifications if you post in KotakuInaction.

Or TumblrInAction or PoliticalCompassMemes. Regardless of the content of your responses/posts, you get banned.

TulblrInAction has just been banned.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by tinco »

tux2bsd wrote: post #203
tinco wrote: post #147

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Lol yeah, I can really tell you're just chock-full of empathy by the way you're conducting yourself in this argument. Are you really unironically saying this or are you just trolling the "woke"? Who would you feel empathy for, it doesn't seem to be the woke left.

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It's just a mindset, besides some minor beliefs they're just the same sort of people you are. I don't know if you'd consider me a leftist woke person, I feel that's something a younger generation is doing, and an older generation is enabling with the cancel culture and such.

But I do feel the same way you do about the wokes about conservatives, when they're dismissive of climate change, when they're rejecting social medical care, when they're taxing the poor and benefiting the rich, when they're not understanding of the BLM protests, when they're taking away personal freedoms, when they're practicing their twisted version of Christianity when you know that if they ever met Jesus they'd be the first ones to nail them to the cross. I wish they'd snap out of their delusions and see how they're against everything they should be for.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Post by winternett »

Dma54rhs wrote: post #122
foolfoolz wrote: post #70

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tiktok provides better “communities” with more organic content. it know it sounds weird but you can get into areas of tiktok very similar to a subreddit. the lack of centralization like public karma, mods, sticky posts, etc actually helps

TikTok recommendation algo is creepy but strange enough it's community is much more kinder and less angry than Reddit. If you give it a day or two train and get past the dancing videos its excellent (unless dancing videos are your thing of course).

It's quite possibly not the algo anymore running TikTok ...

It's likely now all just a random assortment of content from whoever pays the most for ad promotions on their posts, without violating community standards and policy, and occasional celeb posts here and there... of course.

The algo likely only does light duty when something bad on the platform makes the news... They have to make sure paid ads run as promised, and a lot of people buy ads, there is likely no more space for unpaid algo picks, as the Internet now runs 24/7 worldwide with over 8 billion potential customers.

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