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The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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You are automatically banned from some subs if you comment/post in other blacklisted, "rival" communities. Let this sink in.

Very few communities do that, and you generally aren't missing out getting banned from them anyway.

You immediately get a dozen ban notifications if you post in KotakuInaction.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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It's honestly astonishing to see how poorly the leadership team at Reddit has been executing. People shit on Twitter (Zuck called Twitter "a clown car that fell into a gold mine") but Reddit is so much worse. The fact that Reddit didn't have a decent mobile app until a few years ago is unbelievable. Indie-developers were shipping a better reddit mobile apps than the company.

Why would they need their own app when they have good APIs and enough people to create perfectly good third-party apps for them? The only reason I can see is monetization, with your own app you can control the user engagement better. I specifically don't use their app because I explicitly don't want all the fluff features they've added over the years. That's also why I still use old.reddit.com.

APIs are fundamentally at odds with an ad-based revenue model.

If you let third-party apps provide a UX for your data, the app developer will naturally try to make the bext experience they can for users. The first step to doing that is to ditch all the ads. Now you're paying all the cost to host and serve the data, but the third-party app is killing your income.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Reddit is still one of the best place to find relevant and accurate information, compared to say Facebook, Twitter or some random website. Depends on the subreddit of course, but at least healthy communities can be created and moderated. Of course you’ll also find terrible and toxic communities and users, like The_Donald, which has fortunately been banned. Why is the author only focusing on bad aspects?

What’s the purpose of this article? It doesn’t bring anything constructive, it’s just trying to make it look bad, and discourage people from going there.

It doesn’t say what should be done to improve, what healthier site we should visit instead. It’s only negative.

"No matter what you believe in, wisdom isn’t achieved living inside a bubble of utopian ideals."

Oh yeah ideals are bad, surely, wisdom is better. I wonder what kind of "wisdom" he has in mind… He won’t tell us either. Sounds like this article has an agenda, which involves convincing people that Reddit and ideals are bad.

Reddit is doomed, and will go down into chaos because of ideals, values, mods and corporations. Hmmm that sounds familiar. Replace "Reddit" with anything and that’s your usual anti-system "wisdom". It didn’t bring me any new information.

It looks like Reddit is generally too pro-western values for the tastes of the author… And he had to tell the world about it.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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‘Woke’ just means, open to the idea that the way you behave may have unintended negative effects on other, potentially disadvantaged folks and it’s worth changing the way you behave in these circumstances. So also - empathy.

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Lol yeah, I can really tell you're just chock-full of empathy by the way you're conducting yourself in this argument. Are you really unironically saying this or are you just trolling the "woke"? Who would you feel empathy for, it doesn't seem to be the woke left.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

‘Woke’ just means, open to the idea that the way you behave may have unintended negative effects on other, potentially disadvantaged folks and it’s worth changing the way you behave in these circumstances. So also - empathy.

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For fucks sake… empathy is a human motivator that is unaligned with the political spectrum. We’re biologically designed with a (varying) level of it built in to how our brains work. It’s pretty easy to find an example... Watch a male flinch when they see another male kicked in the crotch. There’s heaps more examples of you want to research this field of neuro-psychology. By dragging fundamental human behaviour into the realm of political alignments your marking the other group as less human.

Which is no way to behave towards fellow humans, not a path to any sort of moral high ground, and I’m pretty sure against the hacker news guidelines.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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In a decade this essay will still be available on some web archive, but the author will be fully grown, and the zeitgeist that shaped his adolescence, which is already dying, will be as transparently foolish as is, to contemporary sensibilities, a 1970's punk rocker shouting 'The Beatles suck!' It is true Reddit is a pile of garbage, but it was a worse pile of garbage when its community was posting kiddie porn and cr…

While those were both issues. There was a lot more quality text discussion on the site during that era.

I've been active on Reddit for 14 years. The quality of discussion has been more or less unchanged overall, but you must choose your subreddits in order for that to be true.

All of the major subreddits have gotten watered down because that's what happens when 29 million users (r/pics) are voting on comments. Communities change fundamentally when they scale up. The answer is to seek out smaller communities.

The smartest thing the Reddit admins every did was to create subreddits. At the time, everyone on Reddit criticized them for it. Users wanted to be able to have a single link get posted to multiple subreddits with a single discussion, so that subreddits would behave like tags. But the admins said that, no, the whole point was to create separate distinct communities that could flourish on their own and they were absolutely right.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Does anyone have a good Reddit alternative, that's kindof a niche like HN?

The good alternative to Reddit is still Reddit. Reddit isn't "a community" any more than the web or a state is. It's a huge collection of distinct ones. If you don't like the subreddits you're on, find others.
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