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Many single Japanese people in their 20s have never been on a date – survey

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Re: Many single Japanese people in their 20s have never been on a date – survey

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I’ve only been on maybe three “dates” ever. Somehow I got married though. So apparently it’s not the only way to do it.

I‘m with the same woman for more than 20 years, we have a daughter who is turning 10 years old soon. We’re not married though. Are we still „dating“?

Do you live together in some way? If you, then she's your life partner. It's even a legally recognized form of relationship in Hungary, and I'm sure that in many other places too.

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I think you can say it's more "western" concept than American because the same concept exists in European countries also.

I've never been to an American style date in my life, nor do I do know anyone who does it. At least in France it far out of regular habits. The place for getting to know each other is usually a friends group.

What is an “American style date”?

I’ve been to a plenty of dates in France, it’s not unusual for two people to go out to dinner and get to know each other.

Re: Many single Japanese people in their 20s have never been on a date – survey

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I'm not sure where you're from, but dating as a concept is a very widely spread phenomenon and it isn't some kind of an Americanism.

As a Swede who lived in NA, it definitely seemed like an Americanism.

Yep, Nordic countries you skip the “dates” and go straight to casual sex, if that works out well enough you might go out for dinner together.

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The thing is a man's attractiveness is not one-dimensional. We all know that one guy who does well despite not being physically attractive. But if you're talking about online dating only then you are probably right. Online dating isn't really good for us.

>We all know that one guy who does well despite not being physically attractive. I actually don't. I keep seeing these meme constantly repeated and I actually made a list of unattractive males... and they, mostly, have never had luck with relationship. Physical attractiveness is very important, whatever the consensus du jour say about it.

I think you either don't know many people or you're subconsciously focussing on the negative examples. We also all know that one guy who isn't successful but defeats himself by setting ridiculous standards. Just walk around town one day and look at the couples. You'll see most of the men really aren't anything to look at.

It's amazing how your mindset can make the world look completely different. That mindset also makes you completely unattractive to women. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. The information is out there to help, if you want it. The short version is to socialise more and think less.

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I used to think my goal was making a woman truly happy but now my goal is making myself truly happy and it would be nice if a woman who is trying to make herself truly happy were along for the ride.

Spoiler alert: Good relationships involve both parties contributing 100%.

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“Doing things with people you are romantically interested in” is what dating means, whether you use the term actively or not. More context can be found here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating

Does there not have to be some sort of overt mutual acknowledgement that it's that kind of date, in order for it to be "dating"?

Nope. It's possible to not even realize you were dating until after the fact.

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Same here. I'm early 40s and the idea of dating in the American sense seems odd to me. I've met all my romantic partners at parties or through gatherings at friend's houses. Relationships start off as acquaintances and develop organically as we spend time together. It wouldn't occur to me to ask someone I barely know out on a date. Of course, once a mutual interest has been established, we go and do stuff together on…

You’ve just described exactly what “dating” in the American sense means, so it seems the only thing you have a problem with is the word to describe the overall process.

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Re: Many single Japanese people in their 20s have never been on a date – survey

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This one isn't so much about Japan. Japan is just sensitive to the problem because their ongoing population decline and upcoming economic collapse far greater than anyone has ever seen. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/living-single/201710... https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/the-u-s-fertility-rate-... >In 2010, another survey published The Japanese Association for Sex Education Research Journal found that…

Sexless after childbirth isn't a problem. AFAIK from statistics, birth rate by married women isn't fallen much. Falling marry rate is a big problem.

Sexlessness is basically always a problem. Even sex in the retirement home is important. https://therooster.com/blog/your-college-likely-has-safer-se...

Sexlessness is possibly one of the biggest problems facing humanity. Obviously there's a whole 'incel' thing going on but that's just CBC putting a name to the new issue of violence caused by sexlessness.

The fundamental blame is on all these 'patriarchy', 'toxic masculinity', 'affirmative consent', and actively disadvantaging men.

Which is interesting, there's an active attack on men and it's resulting in men pulling out of the sex market. This leaves fewer men available but women have to basically agree to 1 night stands and have no chance of long term relationships. Everyone involved in sexlessness is becoming depressed and then being given drugs to make them want sex less.

Obviously I am blaming the feminists and not egalitarians. Politically this will result in pro-family politicians to gain power.

But they wont cash in that power right away. They will continue to allow leftist teachers to teach children this absolutely disastrous politics.

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I've gone out to dinner with my mother and long-term friends, but I'm not dating any of them. Sometimes eating is just eating.

Emphasis on with your steady partner

My steady partner is a long-term friend. Not everything is sexual or dating just because we are, in fact, in a relationship that includes sex.

Sometimes eating is just eating.

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Emphasis on with your steady partner

My steady partner is a long-term friend. Not everything is sexual or dating just because we are, in fact, in a relationship that includes sex. Sometimes eating is just eating.

Going steady is commonly understood to mean a long term , serious romantic relationship

Being obtuse and choosing obscure definitions of terms to win points on technicalities isn’t clever, it’s childish

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