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Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by motioncuty »

ve55 wrote: post #69

I'm surprised how negative the comments here are, even if it is true that 'metaverse' is turning into a pretty silly buzzword. I think there's still coherent concepts defined by it (interfaces becoming much more inline with what humans find natural, integration of VR+AR capabilities, and the 'Internet' becoming more and more 'real life' in general). Facebook is absolutely one of the best-positioned companies to be ab…

A metaverse is just the republic of facebook. Its really uncomforting for such an entity devoid of humanistic incentives(and rather a asocial ceo with a fiducial obligation to his share holders) will be able to create a plane of virtual reality that much of the world will have no better option but to leverage. Its one thing to provide advertising subsidized internet. But a metaverse Is where our future children will be spending alot of their time, and if not our children, our childrens friends.

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Post by motioncuty »

mycall wrote: post #360
mensetmanusman wrote: post #358

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This, it is much cheaper to sit on hands and wait for the 1/20 startups to succeed and then just buy them. Unfortunately this will work indefinitely until governments realize that it is not good for the health of the economy.

Governments do the same thing. They can't do much by themselves, so they issue RFPs, vendors bid then do for them. Many of these vendors don't make it (1/20? no idea). Is that also bad for the economy?

Our democratic Governments are ultimately held accountable by voters and not their fiduciary obligation to maximize profit for shareholders. There is a more humanist element to governments.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by perl4ever »

salt-thrower wrote: post #231
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #161

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> I'm surprised how negative the comments here are Honest discussion about Facebook on tech-centric forums is nearly impossible these days. Facebook and Zuckerberg are favorite villains in the tech discourse in 2021. I don't agree with everything Facebook has done, but the vitriol directed at Facebook has become so disconnected from reality that it's getting hard to take it seriously. > this still does seem like a ve…

Is it hyperbole to say that Facebook helped enable genocide in Myanmar? Or that it has been an incredibly useful tool for political propaganda, more so than traditional media ever was? They have not done anything to meaningfully address the very real issues their platform has, and are forging ahead regardless to become even more ubiquitous. The negativity is very understandable.

>Is it hyperbole to say that Facebook helped enable genocide in Myanmar?

I'm not knowledgeable or qualified to judge the facts, but for the sake of discussion, probably not. No more than the thing people always bring up about IBM punch cards and the holocaust.

That doesn't make the negativity understandable.

I'm not sure what more can be said without triggering an accusation of "whataboutism". To be clear, I think equating any context or comparison of anything with whataboutism is a flagrant misuse of the word, but it does seem to be a popular way to have the last word.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by baby »

mkl wrote: post #344
baby wrote: post #299

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I advise creating a dummy account and buying the oculus quest 2 instead. Worth it :)

There are quite a few reports of people's oculus-only dummy accounts being banned: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=oculus+facebook+banned+dummy+accou... It's pretty expensive for something you could be thrown out of at any moment, and it's a lot of money to give to Facebook.

Most likely anti spam: https://www.oculus.com/blog/some-tips-for-using-facebook-acc...

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Post by annadane »

baby wrote: post #302
_gohp wrote: post #185

You have to give one thing to the guy, he keeps pushing, he could retire 1000times over. What is driving him? Anyone knows him from younger years? Most similar people(on a smaller scale) i know are money driven even though they have enough. But at this level? Makes you wonder what his final goal is?

It’s his calling. He believes he is changing the world for the better and connecting people.

Which explains why links on Facebook to his competition are censored; connecting people

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Post by mkl »

baby wrote: post #384
mkl wrote: post #344

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There are quite a few reports of people's oculus-only dummy accounts being banned: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=oculus+facebook+banned+dummy+accou... It's pretty expensive for something you could be thrown out of at any moment, and it's a lot of money to give to Facebook.

Most likely anti spam: https://www.oculus.com/blog/some-tips-for-using-facebook-acc...

I'm not so sure about that:

> Please don’t create a second Facebook account

> Avoid creating a second Facebook account

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by RLN »

83457 wrote: post #332
tkiolp4 wrote: post #317

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Umm, I’m not American so bear with me: - the lady in blue, she looks like a white person after having sun in the beach - the guy with purple tshirt, he looks readhead, so white - the guy with white hat and black hoodie looks south American - the guy with glasses and red jacket, looks black - the ladies with white tshirt, look white - the lady with glasses and brown tshirt, looks white - the guy with grey hat and oran…

You are responding to a silly comment. With that said, I think straight black hair often implies non-european ancestry. I'd just assume main woman is Spanish, one in white is Asian. The non-black males are all pretty ambiguous (shrug)

>I think straight black hair often implies non-european ancestry

What? I better tell some friends they aren't European.

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Post by eyelovewe »

dreamcompiler wrote: post #349
Animats wrote: post #274

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VR/AR is such a new paradigm for interacting with computers. Not really. I tried Jaron Lainer's original VR rig back in the 1980s. The Autodesk system from the 1980s. The W Industries system ... the HTC Vibe. The Microsoft HoloLens. There's been progress, but usability really hasn't improved all that much. You can shoot at people. That works fine. You can sort of use swords. Everything else, not so much. That's why B…

I'm still waiting for a coder's VR IDE, but the pixel resolution isn't there yet. I want to be surrounded by my code and use gestures to run it, simulate it, explore it, debug it. I want to be able to "feel" a keyboard under my fingers and see them typing on it. I want spatial audio cues so I can hear my chokepoint inner loops grinding. I want a live gource-like [0] tree that lets me fly through my repo history. I wa…

Gimme a fast compiler

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Post by JohnFen »

CodeGlitch wrote: post #197
Vrondi wrote: post #147

I was thinking of buying an Occulus Rift, and Facebook buying Occulus is the thing that guaranteed I'd never buy one. People said it wouldn't be a problem, and now you must log in with a Facebook account in order to use your Occulus hardware. No way.

It made me sad too especially when John Carmack was also dragged* into it. * Not sure how he feels about it, but I get the impression he's there for the pay cheque to work on more interesting side projects like AI.

I'm sure that John Carmack is crying on top of his money mountain.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by ericflo »

Animats wrote: post #188
at_a_remove wrote: post #96

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I hate to be the one to bang on about standards, but the cyberpunk vision of the Metaverse -- and I am aiming at kind of a bog-standard middle ground of it -- will depend on some very open standards that are decentralized at the core, starting at Snow Crash and ending in the John C. Wright "The Golden Oecumene" sense of things. Anything but an open and radically-decentralized interoperable set of standards and you're…

will depend on some very open standards that are decentralized at the core There's a performance problem. The open Web only works because we have enough compute power to tie up multiprocessor computers with a few gigaflops per CPU and gigabytes of RAM to display 2D text with a few pictures on the screen. A good 3D game world pushes the limits of what current hardware can do. The level of inefficiency associated with…

Open standards don't equate to slow. Vulkan is an open standard, for example. The standard just has to allow for performant use.
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