Within a decade FB will be the next dying messenger and the world will have moved on.
They buy up competition to stay alive, it will be a much longer time that they stay around.
Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’
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Facebook the company or Facebook the platform? The thing with Facebook owning Instagram is even as Facebook itself becomes less and less relevant to younger generations, the company still owns the platform those younger generations favor. And as Instagram inevitably becomes itself irrelevant, I'm sure Facebook will just buy the next social media platform.
Instagram has already peaked and is on the down-trend. TikTok is what the kids are using now - and they're valued at about half of what FB is valued at, so unlikely that FB will be able to buy them. Maybe FB will buy whatever replaces TikTok.
I think Instagram has more staying power than TikTok as TikTok users start aging and the next generation moves onto their own platform. There's a good chance I'm wrong, but my guess is that publishing videos of yourself as a primary communication format gets less appealing with age as social circles shrink.
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I hate to be the one to bang on about standards, but the cyberpunk vision of the Metaverse -- and I am aiming at kind of a bog-standard middle ground of it -- will depend on some very open standards that are decentralized at the core, starting at Snow Crash and ending in the John C. Wright "The Golden Oecumene" sense of things. Anything but an open and radically-decentralized interoperable set of standards and you're…
Could I trouble you (or anyone) for a "metaverse"-related fiction reading list? It's been awhile since I dug into some classic cyberpunk.
You may enjoy http://www.technovelgy.com/
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#184Can I ride my hoverboard while waving a flag in the Metaverse?
Yes, in Second Life. [1][2]
[1] https://marketplace.secondlife.com/products/search?utf8=%E2%...
[2] https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/GD-Flag-Pole-280-in-1-W...
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#185You have to give one thing to the guy, he keeps pushing, he could retire 1000times over.
What is driving him? Anyone knows him from younger years?
Most similar people(on a smaller scale) i know are money driven even though they have enough.
But at this level? Makes you wonder what his final goal is?
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One has to tread very carefully when mentioning Israel in any context. That said, I couldn't follow the logic of that; how exactly is it that Ben and Jerry's deciding not to sell ice cream in the occupied palestinian territories a "new type of terrorism" against Israel? (esp. as the B&J factory is apparently in Israel).
Basically Israel is the real life embodiment of Seinfeld's uncle Leo who says anything and everything is antisemitism except it's also terrorism. These labels have existing very negative meanings that they would both like to court with their own behavior and accuse others of thoughtlessly. I feel like that singular statement is like watching an entire country jump the shark and that we ought to stop taking their phon…
Anti BDS laws in US states are so baffling to me. The idea that American citizens could be criminalized for choosing not to do business or invest in a foreign power would be laughable if so many current politicians weren't supporting it.
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#187Facebook has so far tried, and failed, to do this. Twice. First was Facebook Spaces. Opened 2017, closed 2019. This was a VR world. Not a very good one. It was mostly a 3D approach to a desktop.[1] You could hand other people flat pictures. Sharing! Total flop. Second was Facebook Horizon. Opened 2020, still running, but not getting much attention. It's a 3D cartoon level VR world. Works OK, not very interesting or p…
VR/AR is such a new paradigm for interacting with computers I think that its inevitable companies will make many failures before finding the apps and hardware that clicks with customers.
In 2017, we had only had mainstream non-beta VR headset hardware in the marketplace since 2016 (original consumer Rift, HTC Vive), lets not forget the 20 years of PDA hardware/software attempts we lived through before the mainstream smartphone designs we all use appeared in 2007. I expect a very similar arc will be followed for VR/AR, especially as the interaction model is so different from screen based.
I'm happy to see some development out "in the open", and wouldn't be so quick to criticize small project flops; VR/AR needs to begin somewhere. Zuck isn't trying to pretend VR/AR is ready for primetime either yet, he's made it clear he wants to be in a very strong position when/if the market does heavily move to VR/AR hardware, which he obviously believes strongly it will over time.
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#188The Verge podcast[0] where Zuck made this comment was quite revealing. Without naming Apple specifically, Zuck managed to communicate an intense fear that Facebook would be locked out of Apple's upcoming AR platform. Is the 'metaverse' inevitable? Or is it merely sci-fi wishful thinking? If 'interoperability' and 'decentralization' means that you can't avoid targeted advertising, I'll pass. [0]: https://www.theverge.…
I hate to be the one to bang on about standards, but the cyberpunk vision of the Metaverse -- and I am aiming at kind of a bog-standard middle ground of it -- will depend on some very open standards that are decentralized at the core, starting at Snow Crash and ending in the John C. Wright "The Golden Oecumene" sense of things. Anything but an open and radically-decentralized interoperable set of standards and you're…
will depend on some very open standards that are decentralized at the core
There's a performance problem. The open Web only works because we have enough compute power to tie up multiprocessor computers with a few gigaflops per CPU and gigabytes of RAM to display 2D text with a few pictures on the screen. A good 3D game world pushes the limits of what current hardware can do. The level of inefficiency associated with Javascript/HTML/CSS won't work for an interesting 3D world. It was tried. See X3D.
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Are there any facebook products that have "the sense of interoperability and portability"? Seems like most of their properties strive for the opposite...
Their Quest headsets still work fine with Steam… for now
I got a quest 1 for as a gift a couple years back. They frequently automatically installed updates that break mods. Now, my headset is currently bricked and I need to figure out how to factory reset or something to fix it.
Maybe its just indifference, but given facebook's history it feels intentional.
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I have a strong feeling that this situation will never occur. Tim and Mark aren't exactly on partnership terms.
There is no need for a partnership beyond the one that allows Facebook to be hosted in the App Store. I think the point is being ready on day one to take advantage of whatever Apple delivers in this space. Facebook switched from web-first to mobile-first/native relatively slowly when the first mobile App Stores, and I think the point is they don't want to be second movers in the future.
Now that Facebook has announced their intentions, it seems like Apple would be motivated to construct precautionary measures against intrusive data collection and user tracking into their hypothetical imminent AR platform.