Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’ • Hacker News Board

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by pteraspidomorph » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 10:00 PM UTC

Animats wrote: post #175

Facebook has so far tried, and failed, to do this. Twice. First was Facebook Spaces. Opened 2017, closed 2019. This was a VR world. Not a very good one. It was mostly a 3D approach to a desktop.[1] You could hand other people flat pictures. Sharing! Total flop. Second was Facebook Horizon. Opened 2020, still running, but not getting much attention. It's a 3D cartoon level VR world. Works OK, not very interesting or p…

> Avatars have no legs; nothing below the waistline

This is the biggest mistake a lot of VR developers made and are still making. People want to look cool in VR. They don't want to look like flying blobs (unless that's their actual chosen aesthetic). This affects their platform and purchase choices to a degree that many don't seem to fully comprehend.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by baby » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 10:01 PM UTC

_gohp wrote: post #185

You have to give one thing to the guy, he keeps pushing, he could retire 1000times over. What is driving him? Anyone knows him from younger years? Most similar people(on a smaller scale) i know are money driven even though they have enough. But at this level? Makes you wonder what his final goal is?

It’s his calling. He believes he is changing the world for the better and connecting people.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by baby » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 10:01 PM UTC

moogly wrote: post #282

_gohp wrote: post #185

You have to give one thing to the guy, he keeps pushing, he could retire 1000times over. What is driving him? Anyone knows him from younger years? Most similar people(on a smaller scale) i know are money driven even though they have enough. But at this level? Makes you wonder what his final goal is?

> What is driving him? Megalomania. His 2017 "manifesto" made that rather clear to me. In it, he came off as trying to sound like the president of the world. I think that was also the year he spent time traveling the US states "to meet real folk".

You want him to stay in his ivory tower instead?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by baby » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 10:01 PM UTC

gilmore606 wrote: post #267

_gohp wrote: post #185

You have to give one thing to the guy, he keeps pushing, he could retire 1000times over. What is driving him? Anyone knows him from younger years? Most similar people(on a smaller scale) i know are money driven even though they have enough. But at this level? Makes you wonder what his final goal is?

Most people have to constantly remind themselves they can't change the world, and adjust their expectations and priorities accordingly. Some tiny fraction of people find themselves in the position where they actually can change the world. I'm not surprised they try to; I'm more surprised that more of them don't.

The kind of pressure (and hate) you get at that level is not for everyone…

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by astlouis44 » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 10:02 PM UTC

baby wrote: post #281

after_care wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s simple natural selection that the most engaging social media platforms became the most profitable, influential, and popular. There’s no guarantee that VR/AR will have the same selection pressure, and if the tech does have the same selection pressure than whoever wins will be engaging as well. IMO Facebook creating the metaverse is like Xerox creating the GUI. Most likely the things that made Facebook successfull…

That’s my worry as well, that they’re not capable of capturing the market due to being a software company. But… they have hired like crazy and at this point I’m assuming most people working there have no link whatsoever with fb, so if they own all the experts there’s a good chance they’ll capture the market. As long as they keep iterating they’ll be fine.

Check out our social 3D/VR web metaverse platform here:

https://vrland.io/lobby

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by mudlus » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 10:05 PM UTC

Ethereum’s vs. FB

The enemy of your enemy is your friend. (Bitcoiner, here)

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by tablespoon » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 10:09 PM UTC

cameronh90 wrote: post #61

jhbadger wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook the company or Facebook the platform? The thing with Facebook owning Instagram is even as Facebook itself becomes less and less relevant to younger generations, the company still owns the platform those younger generations favor. And as Instagram inevitably becomes itself irrelevant, I'm sure Facebook will just buy the next social media platform.

Instagram has already peaked and is on the down-trend. TikTok is what the kids are using now - and they're valued at about half of what FB is valued at, so unlikely that FB will be able to buy them. Maybe FB will buy whatever replaces TikTok.

> Maybe FB will buy whatever replaces TikTok.

If they're allowed to. There's a lot more antitrust scrutiny now than when they bought Instagram.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by 3gg » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 10:13 PM UTC

This guy truly lives in his own universe.

To enter the Facebook metaverse, you need to abandon whatever preconceptions you had about humanity, ignore all social and political problems around you, and trascend all previously established limits of ignorance, arrogance and technological naivete past the gates of cyberhell. Oh, and you need love ads because, oh boy, are you getting some.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by tablespoon » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 10:13 PM UTC

baby wrote: post #295

nebula8804 wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still wish Oracle took over TikTok. It would have been an amazing plot twist. Would they come up an Oracle style licensing agreement for all the tweens on TikTok? Just like how Gen Z realized much faster than millennials that the economy and their future is hogwash, they would learn the consequences of agreeing to an Oracle license agreement much faster than their older peers.

“Tiktok is a national security threat” hahaha. I miss trump.

> “Tiktok is a national security threat” hahaha. I miss trump.

More accurately, it's a potential national security threat, but not yet an actualized one.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by beezischillin » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 10:32 PM UTC

After having tried out PSVR, which I found kind of awful, so much so that the smartphone VR seemed like a step forward compared to it, I was highly skeptical of the whole ordeal. Then my friend showed me Microsoft’s Mixed reality headsets and I was on board with some slight misgivings about the feasibility of using it for longer than 20 minutes at a time, plus it still came with a bit of a hassle.

This year I purchased a Quest2 after reading through the feature list and I was honestly really impressed. Oculus managed to create a truly viable mass market capable rendition of a VR headset. Unfortunately Facebook itself is kind of the biggest enemy when it comes to their own product. From what I’ve seen as a general response and my personal experience also is that people would like a VR headset to experience VR stuff; games, videos, the likes. Facebook would like you to strap a Facebook machine to your face and watch ads, hyper-targeted to you with as much highly personal information used to target as possible. And that’s where the disconnect seems to be. Because Oculus is clearly capable of making VR happen as a viable platform - the question really is: will Facebook let them?