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I never had to go to the Mac App Store to download Finder though.
Oddly I had to on my new iPad Pro. Wasn’t there.
iPad != Mac
Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox
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Honestly, if I were to make a platform and someone else were to come by and somehow force my hand regarding what should be allowed on it and how they should be ranked in it, I’d just shut it all down, even the company if need be, give their money back to whatever investors there may be, and walk away. Let them have fun building it themselves if they want it to run any other way. But that’s just me, and it probably sp…
As long as you're not in an absolutely massive market position, this kind of forcing won't happen to you. If you are in such a position, you can sell it for billions of dollars.
You are right in that lawmakers and judges won’t.
However, it can happen with both investors or managers instead. Or clients, when you’re a freelancer.
And I thought of the selling option, but it would just mean that someone else would bend what you built to that third party’s will.
It’s vain, and probably egotistical, I know.
Re: Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox
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Honestly, if I were to make a platform and someone else were to come by and somehow force my hand regarding what should be allowed on it and how they should be ranked in it, I’d just shut it all down, even the company if need be, give their money back to whatever investors there may be, and walk away. Let them have fun building it themselves if they want it to run any other way. But that’s just me, and it probably sp…
I mean, sure, that's fine. Most laws around what things people and corporations are and aren't allowed to do are trade offs. You can build a company and make lots of money, but you have to obey a set of restrictions. If you're not ok with those restrictions, then you don't build a company. That's fine. There are certainly other people who will accept somewhat lower profits (due to these restrictions) in exchange for…
Totally and wholeheartedly agree.
Re: Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox
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> A market place and a search engine with ads are a little different. There is a difference here. Google has a very definite profit motive in selling ads on searches for a given companies product name that ranks higher in their monopoly search engine. I can't see how ranking Files higher than Dropbox has any such profit motive. It's a free system utility that isn't even ad supported.
They are steering users away from non Apple apps. If a user installs Dropbox, it seems more likely that they wouldn't want to install and pay for icloud storage. If Apple wasn't benefiting from surfacing their app in front of a non Apple app, why would someone at Apple go through the trouble of setting it up that way?
They are steering users to install a system utility that integrates with Dropbox (and every other major cloud service).
Apple does not make any profit off of that system utility.
Google, on the other hand, makes the vast majority of their profit from selling ads that do indeed steer users away from the product they searched for.
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Why do you say they’re degrading the experience?
The other day I had a windows upgrade and suddenly had weather on my desktop. I thought it was some malware I’d downloaded. Nope, new windows feature with a confusing way to disable it so I had to Google it. My next laptop will definitely be a MacBook.
To each their own, but I find it hilarious that the weather widget is the straw that broke the camel’s back for you not wanting Windows anymore. There are so many better reasons to move away from Windows.
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The consoles are niche entertainment devices. They also have many alternatives: multiple stores on PCs, and several newer cloud-based products. For this reason I'm OK with the stores in xbox/playstation/nintendo. With smartphones it's different. Phones are not niche devices, they are ubiquitous and have killed whole industries like consumer photo/video equipment and portable audio. From consumer point of view, no rea…
> The consoles are niche entertainment devices. They sell by the tens of millions . They are in no way “niche”. > Phones are not niche devices, they are ubiquitous and have killed whole industries like consumer photo/video equipment and portable audio. It wasn’t common for things like cameras to have open development platforms either.
> They sell by the tens of millions
There’re billions of active Android devices. That’s 2 orders of magnitude difference. Compared to these volumes, consoles are niche devices.
And don’t forget about alternatives. If you wanna play videogames you don’t have to buy a console, you can get a PC and buy Windows games from gog, steam, epic or origin. And in some cases like take-two directly from developer. And recently there were multiple attempts to make cloud gaming work, pretty sure some day someone will do that successfully.
Because customers have so many alternatives, xbox and playstation are not a monopoly despite MS/Sony are selling devices locked to their respective stores.
For smartphones, customers only have 2 alternatives. It’s for this reason apple and google are a monopoly, and we should treat them this way i.e. regulate the hell out of them.
> It wasn’t common for things like cameras to have open development platforms either.
I don’t think many people care about open platforms. They care about choice. Back in the days, if you didn’t like e.g. Sony pushing their overprices memory sticks, you could buy a camera that’s not Sony, there were many other good vendors on the market. Nowadays, the cameras are either prosumer and professional (i.e. expensive), or non-existent because smartphones killed them. And while there’re many companies making smartphones, all these smartphones are controlled by just two.
Re: Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox
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I just uninstalled Dropbox and upgraded my iCloud storage. I’ll admit it’s an experiment to see if it meets my needs, but for my use case(syncing between my desktop and laptop), they are absolutely direct competitors.
Yes, iCloud certainly does compete with Dropbox. But Files doesn’t. You didn’t use the Files app to upgrade your iCloud storage, you went to Settings or a web browser.
My fault, I wasn't clear.
My use case also includes being able to check certain file occasionally on mobile. That requires Files app.
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Surely the company is responsible for the actions of their employees but there's a distinction between company policy and individuals actions. And the well-made arguments you have presented is how corporates regularly abuse this "distinction" between company policy and individual action when caught - it was not us, it was this guy . Plausible deniability is standard tactic of management. I would be more willing to ac…
That depends on the interpretation og the data available. From the published e-mails, my understanding is that an action was taken to stop and prevent it from happening again before the incident was made public which I would interpret as Apple doesn't do it as a company policy. Of course someone can claim that these were sham mails designed to make upper management look good despite not having any indications whatsoe…
I'm willing to accept that people are going to believe whatever they would like to believe.
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Apple PR often says things that are not reality... It is almost like Apple PR does not really know what is happening inside of Apple....
But they still have to be cleared by legal. And for the past 6 years lots of Apple PR put out were lying by omission. Both Qualcomm and IMG's case has plenty of concrete evidence. For example >> we do not advantage our apps over those of any developer or competitor They could redefine the word "advantage" or "competitor" in this scenario where the above sentence would be factually correct. However in court, it become…
Unity support tells people all sorts of things that aren’t true about the licensing. You have to press them, then they ask legal, and then they backpedal because it was all a mistake, and one that you are on the hook for