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Would that extend to grocery stores, where would you force walmart to put their own brands?
You mean the grocery stores that have many competitors who also sell groceries? How would you extend that analogy to the iOS App Store, which has no competitors whatsoever who sell iOS apps?
Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox
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Re: Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox
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You can also "noun" verbs. One I hear in SV is "an ask". I find myself a bit peeved by it but I don't know why.
Much as I tend to be in favor of language evolving, I react almost viscerally to 'compute' as a noun. It is a major irk.
Re: Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox
#113> While Apple didn’t challenge the idea that Files was unfairly ranked over Dropbox, the company says the reality was a simple mistake: the Files app had a Dropbox integration, so Apple put “Dropbox” into the app’s metadata, and it was automatically ranked higher for “Dropbox” searches as a result. This seems to be the key argument, I've not seen this addressed anywhere. The Files app doesn't compete with Dropbox, if…
Even so, why would their ranking favor a metadata match (whose app name doesn't match) over an exact app name match?
Re: Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox
#114Does anyone else just…not care? Files is a system app like Windows Explorer. It’s not meant to “compete” with anything. Does anyone think Control Panel competes with Android’s Settings app? iCloud Drive is a cloud storage competitor that Files works well with, but Files also supports Dropbox and Google Drive and many other storage competitors (anyone who wants to implement the API gets to be in Files). Also, the argu…
I don't think you read the article. Apple boosted their generic Files app above Dropbox for the query Dropbox . That is the controversy.
"While Apple didn’t challenge the idea that Files was unfairly ranked over Dropbox, the company says the reality was a simple mistake: the Files app had a Dropbox integration, so Apple put “Dropbox” into the app’s metadata, and it was automatically ranked higher for “Dropbox” searches as a result."
Re: Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox
#115I tend to think of Files as less like Dropbox and more like the macOS Finder. You can actually browse Dropbox in Files, much as you can in the Finder, although there are some limitations. https://help.dropbox.com/installs-integrations/mobile/ios-fi...
Re: Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox
#116Does anyone else just…not care? Files is a system app like Windows Explorer. It’s not meant to “compete” with anything. Does anyone think Control Panel competes with Android’s Settings app? iCloud Drive is a cloud storage competitor that Files works well with, but Files also supports Dropbox and Google Drive and many other storage competitors (anyone who wants to implement the API gets to be in Files). Also, the argu…
>Files is a system app like Windows Explorer. It’s not meant to “compete” with anything. That defence helped Internet Explorer a lot. Nope. At the very least searching for 'dropbox' should return 'dropbox' and not be overriden by Apple. >but for some reason its position in the App Store is a controversial topic? How many people even delete Files and search for it again? This makes Apple's defence for manually placing…
The past tense implies that battle was already won. Afaik, Windows still uses anti-competetive practices to support Edge (not uninstallable, and 'are you sure you want to change your default browser? Check out the New Edge first!'). The same defense still applies if they want it. I don't think it's right to speak about it like it's a thing of the past.
Re: Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox
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Even so, why would their ranking favor a metadata match (whose app name doesn't match) over an exact app name match?
In IT, there are edge cases, QA misses, design mistakes and ofc the almighty programming bug. Pick.
Or could be they boosted their own app intentionally.
Re: Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox
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Even so, why would their ranking favor a metadata match (whose app name doesn't match) over an exact app name match?
Because you're thinking of Dropbox as the company and product rather than just a word, if someone searches "games" they should be shown results for games instead of an app or apps literally named "games", so it's important to rank metadata highly even if above actual app names.
Re: Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox
#119Apple PR: > we do not advantage our apps over those of any developer or competitor Apple employee Debankur Naskar: > I think the Files app was manually boosted ... during last WWDC. We are removing the manual boost So which of these is true? Or is PR technically correct because they do not currently "advantage" their apps?
PR puffery usually doesn't get introduced as evidence in court cases.
Re: Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox
#120I tend to think of Files as less like Dropbox and more like the macOS Finder. You can actually browse Dropbox in Files, much as you can in the Finder, although there are some limitations. https://help.dropbox.com/installs-integrations/mobile/ios-fi...