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Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox

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Re: Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox

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Post by saagarjha »

samatman wrote: post #69
donmcronald wrote: post #7

> > the Files app had a Dropbox integration, so Apple put “Dropbox” into the app’s metadata, and it was automatically ranked higher for “Dropbox” searches as a result. I can smell the bullshit from here and I don't live in the US. Lol.

I'm glad you quoted this because it's actually plausible. It's a given that Files is downloaded much more often than Dropbox: it's integrated with the rest of the iOS ecosystem and iCloud, I'm confident there are many more iPhone users with the Files app than with the Dropbox app. If they added a "Dropbox" metadata, that would organically return it on a search for "Dropbox", and being popular (and well rated presumab…

> It's a given that Files is downloaded much more often than Dropbox

I doubt it, given that it ships with iOS.

Re: Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox

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Post by fenomas »

threeseed wrote: post #76
codesternews wrote: post #28

Apple has made life of small developers hard. Mac software and app industry has died. Even after notarising apps they show malicious popup to users. Same practices has adapted by apple like search ad etc etc. They make competing services and steal ideas of developers and those app dies. For eg screen time for Moments app. They have unfair advantage and small developers could not complete. Only handful of indie develo…

> Mac software and app industry has died And yet for me there are far more apps than there has ever been. > steal ideas of developers Nobody owns an idea. > They killed the industry. This notion that Apple killed the mobile apps industry which it arguably started is ridiculous. We have companies like Instagram, Snap, WhatsApp, Niantic etc who built billion dollar businesses on the back of the iOS platform. And a wide…

> mobile apps industry which it arguably started

Just a friendly reminder that Japanese carriers had a $1B mobile app/content economy going before the Apple app store launched.

Re: Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox

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Post by biztos »

arthurcolle wrote: post #67
musicale wrote: post #49

Apple PR: > we do not advantage our apps over those of any developer or competitor Apple employee Debankur Naskar: > I think the Files app was manually boosted ... during last WWDC. We are removing the manual boost So which of these is true? Or is PR technically correct because they do not currently "advantage" their apps?

Their use of ‘advantage’ as a word reminds me of this classic Calvin & Hobbes strip. https://www.languagetrainers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/201... Looks like the 80s/90s kids that were brought up on these skits are finally taking over!

I am grateful to Bill Watterson for gifting us with that.

Re: Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox

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Post by mastersummoner »

Razengan wrote: post #251
heavyset_go wrote: post #50

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> Mac software and app industry has died. Even after notarising apps they show malicious popup to users. I maintain a handful of open source apps for macOS, and have for years. If I don't pay the $100 Apple tax, macOS will treat those apps as if they're radioactive, and it will trick users into believing the apps are either broken or malicious. In order to run them, users must know how to change arcane settings and d…

> If I don't pay the $100 Apple tax Please. If you can’t make enough in an entire damn year to cover that $100, you need to look at what you’re doing. Hell I’ve seen obscure open source projects get more than $100 in donations every single month. If people see any value in your work, then that $100 is not a barrier at all.

Not every OSS developer does, or wants to, request donations for their software.

Re: Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox

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Post by rgrieselhuber »

etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #80
arthurcolle wrote: post #67

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Their use of ‘advantage’ as a word reminds me of this classic Calvin & Hobbes strip. https://www.languagetrainers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/201... Looks like the 80s/90s kids that were brought up on these skits are finally taking over!

You can also "noun" verbs. One I hear in SV is "an ask". I find myself a bit peeved by it but I don't know why.

One of the ones I hate the most is "let's find a solve" when they mean to say "let's find a solution."

Re: Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox

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Post by eps »

mercer wrote: post #86
etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #80

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You can also "noun" verbs. One I hear in SV is "an ask". I find myself a bit peeved by it but I don't know why.

Much as I tend to be in favor of language evolving, I react almost viscerally to 'compute' as a noun. It is a major irk.

Yeah, tell me about it. People nouning things... argh, eyeroll.

Re: Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox

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Post by Retric »

snowwrestler wrote: post #187
hattar wrote: post #174

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Why?

Maybe because to truly grok a person, you have to eat them [1]. I’d imagine that could hurt that person deep inside if they were alive when you started. [1] Per the end of A Stranger In a Strange Land

Eating someone isn’t required to grok them in a Stranger in a Strange Land, it’s an aid in doing so.

Re: Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox

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Post by rusk »

rgrieselhuber wrote: post #275
etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #80

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You can also "noun" verbs. One I hear in SV is "an ask". I find myself a bit peeved by it but I don't know why.

One of the ones I hate the most is "let's find a solve" when they mean to say "let's find a solution."

I almost involuntarily downvoted you when I read that

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Post by bombcar »

hnick wrote: post #231
spicybright wrote: post #180

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Does shelf height play that big of a roll in sales?

It's not just height, it's the positioning at the end of aisles too, and the large 'sales' stickers to draw attention. IIRC they would request an all-or-nothing for your product line, so if it was something like dog food or sauces where you might have multiple variations you had to pay the fee per SKU to be featured, you didn't get to pick and choose. They decided. Similarly at least one large pharmacy chain supposed…

Shelf height really does matter, check the items that are at “eye” height the next time you’re in the store.

And sometimes it goes so far as to distinguish between the average male eye height and he average female when arranging products.

Re: Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox

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Post by rgrieselhuber »

rusk wrote: post #278
rgrieselhuber wrote: post #275

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One of the ones I hate the most is "let's find a solve" when they mean to say "let's find a solution."

I almost involuntarily downvoted you when I read that

I can sympathize.
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