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Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by iron0013 »

kypro wrote: post #172

Remember when people said "it's only extremists like Alex Jones" and "white nationalists", yeah well now Twitter has banned the president of the United States. I'm not a supporter of Trump, but I'm yet to hear him explicitly incite violence. I know he encouraged the protest at the Capitol but I've yet to see evidence that he was hoping for it to turn violent? And if he did want that why did he speak out against it? H…

>Remember when people said "it's only extremists like Alex Jones" and "white nationalists", yeah well now Twitter has banned the president of the United States.

The president of the United States is in fact an extremist like Alex Jones and a white nationalist.

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Post by courtf »

kristofferR wrote: post #184
tjr225 wrote: post #146

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I’m not even going to pretend you’re attempting to make an argument in good faith. One could argue tech companies have a monopoly problem but you’re just saying a private company should allow anyone to say anything on their platform and throwing a ridiculous slippery slope out in front of it.

It's not a ridiculous argument at all, Cloudflare already did it because the CEO "woke up this morning in a bad mood and decided to kick them off the Internet" [1]. AWS is reportedly considering banning Parler. If this trend continues we'll soon have a completely balkanized internet where everyone lives in their own bubble and is banned from posting their viewpoints in the opposite bubble. [1] https://arstechnica.com…

These comments are hilarious, because people on the right vastly overestimate the size of their presence on the web. The traffic parler generates for AWS is a rounding error.

It's like complaining about shutting down the old chuck e cheese on the interstate.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by maxerickson »

ErikVandeWater wrote: post #74

Is anyone concerned by the coordinated efforts of Facebook Google, Twitter, Discord, Reddit, and Apple today? If these groups and individuals that were banned were violating the TOS before, why did they leave them in place for so long? How do these companies decide when to enforce their rules, since obviously it's not immediately? And do they make deals with one another (I'll ban someone you don't like if you ban som…

The slope doesn't get slipperier just because you find out you are standing on it.

There probably is a reckoning to be had about how access to social media is mediated, that social media companies have demonstrated the technical ability and willingness to do it doesn't limit future options to regulate how they do it.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by Acrobatic_Road »

ajross wrote: post #188
Acrobatic_Road wrote: post #154

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I am interested in the truth. The truth is that the events at the capitol were not a coup. This is deliberate propagandist language. >This was a moment of deep shame. And comments like yours make it worse. The people turning their back on our civil liberties are far more shameful.

> The truth is that the events at the capitol were not a coup. This is deliberate propagandist language. You say so only because it failed. If the tunnels didn't exist? If the mob had been faster or better armed? How would it have ended? Would Pence and Pelosi still be hostages? (Edit: not worth continuing. But I bet anything if I kept going you'd eventually pull out a thesaurus and zing me with BUT it's REALLY an "a…

It's not a failed coup. It's just not a coup at all.

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Post by nalekberov »

elliekelly wrote: post #173
nalekberov wrote: post #73

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Who are you to let this happen may i ask, if that's "you", who are the rest? and why the rest should bend into status-quo?

In theory it’s “the free market” in action. If your ideas are good and people want to hear them then you’d be able to find a platform to disseminate those ideas to an eager audience.

lol "the free market". Which capitalist invented this word?

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Post by sn_master »

artificialLimbs wrote: post #185
bun_at_work wrote: post #149

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Do you have any evidence that it's coordinated? Twitter banned some stuff temporarily the other day, now they upgrade those bans and add some more. Google removes parler from the Play Store today, a different action (not banning trump). Apple didn't ban anything, but is considering it. These seem like different actions by different companies, responding to the same news. Also, pedantic as it may be, it's not politica…

"These companies are not political entities" Every time I get on Twitter or Facebook, or my friends or family get on Twitter or Facebook, the sites are filled to overflowing with HEAVY liberal bias. They may not 'be' political entities, but they certainly swing hard in one direction.

I agree. Same goes for Reddit too, or the big subreddits atleast.

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Post by afuchs »

artificialLimbs wrote: post #185
bun_at_work wrote: post #149

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Do you have any evidence that it's coordinated? Twitter banned some stuff temporarily the other day, now they upgrade those bans and add some more. Google removes parler from the Play Store today, a different action (not banning trump). Apple didn't ban anything, but is considering it. These seem like different actions by different companies, responding to the same news. Also, pedantic as it may be, it's not politica…

"These companies are not political entities" Every time I get on Twitter or Facebook, or my friends or family get on Twitter or Facebook, the sites are filled to overflowing with HEAVY liberal bias. They may not 'be' political entities, but they certainly swing hard in one direction.

> ... the sites are filled to overflowing with HEAVY liberal bias ...

This very subjective and probably different person to person especially given AI driven filters and the ability to choose who to follow or friend on these sites.

When I check one of the sites you mentioned, I see almost exclusively voices from the American right-wing. On the other one, it's significantly more moderate but with some opposing viewpoints from either extreme thrown in. It all depends on who someone friends or follows and what the filter chooses to show.

Of course, this ignores what "liberal bias" is, which is a subjective determination that varies according to the bias of whomever makes such a determination.

Although, this is a distraction from the question raised early in this thread. of whether some coordination happened behind the scenes or if these bans are a result of distinct actions in response to the same circumstances.

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Post by sixothree »

stevehawk wrote: post #168
happytoexplain wrote: post #118

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A historic event occurred - how could you take that to mean it was coordinated?

well according to 4chan it was all coordinated by the Jews.. or ANTIFA.. or the Vatican.. Illuminati.. that one guy that stole their lunch money that one time.. (per 4chan/qanon) it's all false flags. that lady wasn't shot. she threw herself back on to her padded backpack... because "they" knew that if someone "died" then they could quell the uprising. (which is actually pretty insulting to the "revolution" isn't it?…

The conspiracies are bad but the denialism is worse. Honoring the "heroes" and "patriots".

But on the subject at hand, I can't imagine a platform that was required to carry Trump's content that I would want to be a part of.

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Post by another_sock »

courtf wrote: post #198
another_sock wrote: post #183

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The funny thing is despite your mockery of my reply, literally all the things I've mentioned have already happened to people in real life. It's just a matter of time until it's well known and happening to very milquetoast people. Eventually it will be happening to people you agree with, and when it does, remember this comment.

Some of the people I agree with are dead, murdered by people you agree with. Cry my a river a tears about your fascist leader being kicked off Twitter. I'd fill a snow globe and keep it in my desk.

I don't care about Trump being kicked off twitter. He is just a name that is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. I also don't care about the people you agree with or how they ended up, although I do think it's funny that you seem to care about them and yet you are pushing for a similar environment that will end up with similar results.

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Post by pseudalopex »

elliekelly wrote: post #125
app4soft wrote: post #57

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Here is better explained article on "The Washington Post".[0] P.S. He is also removed from Mastodon[1] too: > The page you were looking for doesn't exist here anymore. [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/08/twitter... [1] https://mastodon.social/@realDonaldTrump

Can someone explain how mastodon is able to remove an account? I thought the whole point of mastodon was that there wasn’t any one single group who controlled the platform?

Mastodon is federated. mastodon.social is a server run by Mastodon developers. Other servers are independent.
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