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Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by tjr225 »

another_sock wrote: post #92
ErikVandeWater wrote: post #74

Is anyone concerned by the coordinated efforts of Facebook Google, Twitter, Discord, Reddit, and Apple today? If these groups and individuals that were banned were violating the TOS before, why did they leave them in place for so long? How do these companies decide when to enforce their rules, since obviously it's not immediately? And do they make deals with one another (I'll ban someone you don't like if you ban som…

That is a conspiracy theory. You need to be medicated and deplatformed.

Theyre free to find another platform or make their own. Nice try though.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by sixothree »

ErikVandeWater wrote: post #74

Is anyone concerned by the coordinated efforts of Facebook Google, Twitter, Discord, Reddit, and Apple today? If these groups and individuals that were banned were violating the TOS before, why did they leave them in place for so long? How do these companies decide when to enforce their rules, since obviously it's not immediately? And do they make deals with one another (I'll ban someone you don't like if you ban som…

I think we're all learning new facts about the events this week. It's not entirely surprising to me other than one company doing it gives the rest "permission" to follow suit.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by tonystubblebine »

mullingitover wrote: post #53

It's going to be exhausting watching people explain how the First Amendment works, ad nauseam, over the next few days.

I would like to see people who are advocating for free speech on private platforms to expand what they are saying to also cover their position on property rights.

Fine, fine, I get that a lot of people here are chilled by threats to open discussion. But please go further, how do you balance that with a private company's right to do what they want with their own product?

I personally find it very threatening as a product developer that there might be laws requiring me to allow people to use my products in ways that are abhorrent to me. Yes, the government has defined protected classes and I will respect those (not hard for me). But if a bunch of Trumpers wanted to use my software to organize a coup, do people really think I have to support that?

Where is that line?

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by DonHopkins »

erichocean wrote: post #64
app4soft wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is better explained article on "The Washington Post".[0] P.S. He is also removed from Mastodon[1] too: > The page you were looking for doesn't exist here anymore. [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/08/twitter... [1] https://mastodon.social/@realDonaldTrump

When Biden moves to the White House, he should remove Trump's Presidential portrait from the wall. Completely unperson the guy, like he never existed.

No, better yet: they should just place Obama's portrait in front of it.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by elliekelly »

app4soft wrote: post #57
ztratar wrote: post #7

Makes sense. They just set a policy and he immediately attempted a workaround. Let's have the free speech discussions debated through representatives. I can agree that violence should be removed by platforms immediately, and that "Stop the Steal" did promote just that.

Here is better explained article on "The Washington Post".[0] P.S. He is also removed from Mastodon[1] too: > The page you were looking for doesn't exist here anymore. [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/08/twitter... [1] https://mastodon.social/@realDonaldTrump

Can someone explain how mastodon is able to remove an account? I thought the whole point of mastodon was that there wasn’t any one single group who controlled the platform?

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by tjr225 »

kortilla wrote: post #105
mullingitover wrote: post #53

It's going to be exhausting watching people explain how the First Amendment works, ad nauseam, over the next few days.

It’s going to be exhausting hearing people explain how censorship is cool because it’s not the government doing it.

That’s exactly how it is intended to work. Twitter doesn’t owe me or even the president anything.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by another_sock »

tjr225 wrote: post #121
another_sock wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is a conspiracy theory. You need to be medicated and deplatformed.

Theyre free to find another platform or make their own. Nice try though.

Yes and when AWS shuts them down and ISPs block them, they are free to make their own servers and ISPs. And when the financial system shuts down their banking and all of their family members' and public supporters' banking, they are free to create a new banking system as well (assuming they can pay the regulatory fees and have people lobbying for them of course)

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by systemvoltage »

save_ferris wrote: post #3

Most of the discussion seems to be centered around freedom of speech and enabling dissenting voices, no matter how violent, but I think we're missing the bigger picture here. This represents a vast check on presidential power that exists purely in the hands of these incredibly wealthy and powerful social media executives. I don't necessarily disagree with Twitter's decision given the events of the last few days, but…

Presidents and all officials should quit Twitter and use official channels for communication.

We've stooped so low that the entire world has one communication channel for politicians: Twitter.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by mullingitover »

kortilla wrote: post #105
mullingitover wrote: post #53

It's going to be exhausting watching people explain how the First Amendment works, ad nauseam, over the next few days.

It’s going to be exhausting hearing people explain how censorship is cool because it’s not the government doing it.

You're entitled to free speech, you're not entitled to someone else's platform.

Stormfront has been an openly racist community forum, spouting hate speech unimpeded for 24 years. Their one weird trick: they're not relying on someone else's platform to do it.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by daniellarusso »

save_ferris wrote: post #21
sroussey wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disagree that presidential power should bleed into private companies. He entered into a contract with Twitter, broke it, and Twitter ended things on their side.

> He entered into a contract with Twitter, broke it, and Twitter ended things on their side. I agree, and I'm not saying that Twitter acted in the wrong here. Imagine a hypothetical scenario where Dorsey threatens a president to say or not say something under penalty of deplatforming. That's a pretty significant lever to have over POTUS. That's the point I'm trying to make here.

I am pretty sure Dorsey could just impersonate the account and post or remove whatever.

No need for threats.

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