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Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by daniellarusso »

the_drunkard wrote: post #89
poulsbohemian wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>strips Trump of a major source of power for him I think you are trying to make a reasoned argument and engage in meaningful debate, but can we really make the argument that the person with the nuclear codes, in control of a budget of trillions of dollars, receives any power from a free online publishing tool?

> receives any power from a free online publishing tool i respectfully disagree. imagine FDR without his radio fireside chats, JFK without his television appearances, or even Trump without Twitter. the usage of media platforms and ability to communicate directly with constituents is a source of power.

So, the first two examples are one-way broadcast mediums using the public airwaves.

If you had said HBO and Sirius radio, I would agree.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by bmarquez »

app4soft wrote: post #57
ztratar wrote: post #7

Makes sense. They just set a policy and he immediately attempted a workaround. Let's have the free speech discussions debated through representatives. I can agree that violence should be removed by platforms immediately, and that "Stop the Steal" did promote just that.

Here is better explained article on "The Washington Post".[0] P.S. He is also removed from Mastodon[1] too: > The page you were looking for doesn't exist here anymore. [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/08/twitter... [1] https://mastodon.social/@realDonaldTrump

> P.S. He is also removed from Mastodon[1] too

For some reason, I thought that Mastadon was supposed to be free from censorship (for the sake of discussion, let's just call it that) because you could run your own servers.

Did Trump get removed from a specific server or from Mastadon in general? Or did everyone else choose not to link (not sure of the terminology) with him? And if it's possible to get removed from Mastadon, what makes it different than an ad-free clone of Twitter?

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by poulsbohemian »

the_drunkard wrote: post #89
poulsbohemian wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>strips Trump of a major source of power for him I think you are trying to make a reasoned argument and engage in meaningful debate, but can we really make the argument that the person with the nuclear codes, in control of a budget of trillions of dollars, receives any power from a free online publishing tool?

> receives any power from a free online publishing tool i respectfully disagree. imagine FDR without his radio fireside chats, JFK without his television appearances, or even Trump without Twitter. the usage of media platforms and ability to communicate directly with constituents is a source of power.

As I noted, you realize the federal government has a nearly inexhaustible source of funding, right? I bet they could build a twitter clone if they were really worried about it.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by Acrobatic_Road »

ajross wrote: post #119
Acrobatic_Road wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>coup attempt It wasn't even close to a coup. https://mises.org/wire/capitol-riot-wasnt-coup-it-wasnt-even... >This is the attempt to recover. This is a massive step forward to authoritarianism. Internet monopolies colluding to censor the internet, politicians calling for protestors to be put on the no fly list without due process, growing calls for the government to censor the internet, and more to come.

> It wasn't even close to a coup You'd never say that if it wasn't "your people" in there. Never. Don't claim to be a patriot ever again if you think dismissing the first successful attack on a congressional session (hell, the VP was in there too) in the history of the republic is a good argument to make. Hell, five people died. That's more than at the Reichstag fire (I checked with Godwin, by the way, he approves).…

I am interested in the truth. The truth is that the events at the capitol were not a coup. This is deliberate propagandist language.

>This was a moment of deep shame. And comments like yours make it worse.

The people turning their back on our civil liberties are far more shameful.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by nr2x »

mullingitover wrote: post #129
kortilla wrote: post #105

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It’s going to be exhausting hearing people explain how censorship is cool because it’s not the government doing it.

You're entitled to free speech, you're not entitled to someone else's platform. Stormfront has been an openly racist community forum, spouting hate speech unimpeded for 24 years . Their one weird trick: they're not relying on someone else's platform to do it.

Yup, and they had their own little shitty corner of the Internet until social media showed up and let them out. Time to send the trolls back to the caves.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by another_sock »

nr2x wrote: post #140
another_sock wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes and when AWS shuts them down and ISPs block them, they are free to make their own servers and ISPs. And when the financial system shuts down their banking and all of their family members' and public supporters' banking, they are free to create a new banking system as well (assuming they can pay the regulatory fees and have people lobbying for them of course)

As a brilliant billionaire businessman with three cable news networks behind him I’m sure he’ll survive.

Yes and I'm sure when all the standards for allowing people on the wrong side of public opinion are removed, that will never end up flipping around on the people who pushed for their removal.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by erichocean »

gamblor956 wrote: post #87
erichocean wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When Biden moves to the White House, he should remove Trump's Presidential portrait from the wall. Completely unperson the guy, like he never existed.

That is only done for Presidents that are removed via the impeachment process. As a result, it has never actually happened. (While several presidents have been impeached in the House, the latter half of the process has never been successfully sustained in the Senate.)

Surely we can make an exception when a President leads an insurrection against his own country…

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by Acrobatic_Road »

btmiller wrote: post #139
Acrobatic_Road wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>with sound rejection and banishment of hate speech Unless it's directed at white people. That one's been embraced by our tolerant overlords.

I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make here, but I hope you find peace.

The people who claim to be on the side of tolerance are very intolerant people.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by DonHopkins »

TrackerFF wrote: post #82
pineapple_rice wrote: post #4

So today we had: * Reddit ban a number of pro trump subreddits (details at reddit.com/r/reclassified) * Twitter permanently bans Trump and a number of other influential conservative accounts * Discord has banned the donald win discord * Google banned Parler from the Play Store * Apple is strongly considering to do the same This will go down as a very important day in American Internet history. A very important week i…

Well, good riddance to Trump. But the only thing I'm really worried about, is that his most extreme followers will feel even more marginalized - which could make the echo chambers even more dangerous. I don't think these actions are as much coordinated, as they simply are a cascade of reactions. But from the outside, especially to those living in a bubble, it certainly would look like a surgical strike on Trump and h…

They'll feel marginalized and play the victim no matter how we treat them, so it's about time to marginalize the fuck out of them.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Post by sk5t »

kumarvvr wrote: post #34
scrollaway wrote: post #20

Something that isn't being talked about anymore: Trump chose twitter. He chose to stay on it, to use his personal account, to use it as his primary method of communication. US presidents have the biggest, loudest loudspeakers available at their fingertips. Obama's administration had a whole protocol about how to use Twitter as one of their official comms medium and not have it be a de facto one. Biden is so far follo…

Yup. I blame Twitter too. They are too greedy. Just when their platform was receiving flak for not being profitable, trump comes on and they let him on because it was good business. Now that he is out of power, revenue from his enabling dwindles fast and criticism increases, so the business decision is to ban him.

This is a very naive take. Millions of Trumpers still want to engage with him on Twitter. The business equation hasn't changed.
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