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Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Aren't there 75 million people that are very upset about it? (I mostly think it's hilarious that he's slowly rounded up from 74 million)

If he was OK with numbers to begin with he'd see the folly in disputing the election result, Covid cases, tax returns, ...

But 11,780! If you can just find 11,780!

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Welcome to the next chapter in our globally connected "society". In other news, Orwell's "1984" is currently Amazons #7 best seller [0]. [0] https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-books-Amazon/zgbs/books

Fun fact Orwell was a really aggressive socialist

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Yes and when AWS shuts them down and ISPs block them, they are free to make their own servers and ISPs. And when the financial system shuts down their banking and all of their family members' and public supporters' banking, they are free to create a new banking system as well (assuming they can pay the regulatory fees and have people lobbying for them of course)

You think they'll stop there?! The homeless shelters will start asking who you voted for. They'll start testing fetuses in the womb for Trumpist DNA. St Peter will meet you at the pearly gates with a scroll containing all your tweets, and it still won't be enough! The aliens running the simulation have already started checking each other's privilege!!

The funny thing is despite your mockery of my reply, literally all the things I've mentioned have already happened to people in real life. It's just a matter of time until it's well known and happening to very milquetoast people. Eventually it will be happening to people you agree with, and when it does, remember this comment.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Yes and when AWS shuts them down and ISPs block them, they are free to make their own servers and ISPs. And when the financial system shuts down their banking and all of their family members' and public supporters' banking, they are free to create a new banking system as well (assuming they can pay the regulatory fees and have people lobbying for them of course)

I’m not even going to pretend you’re attempting to make an argument in good faith. One could argue tech companies have a monopoly problem but you’re just saying a private company should allow anyone to say anything on their platform and throwing a ridiculous slippery slope out in front of it.

It's not a ridiculous argument at all, Cloudflare already did it because the CEO "woke up this morning in a bad mood and decided to kick them off the Internet" [1].

AWS is reportedly considering banning Parler. If this trend continues we'll soon have a completely balkanized internet where everyone lives in their own bubble and is banned from posting their viewpoints in the opposite bubble.

[1] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/cloudflares-ceo-...

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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It's very concerning. This is a coordinated political action with unprecedented scale. You may agree with the action this time, next time you may not.

Do you have any evidence that it's coordinated? Twitter banned some stuff temporarily the other day, now they upgrade those bans and add some more. Google removes parler from the Play Store today, a different action (not banning trump). Apple didn't ban anything, but is considering it. These seem like different actions by different companies, responding to the same news. Also, pedantic as it may be, it's not politica…

"These companies are not political entities" Every time I get on Twitter or Facebook, or my friends or family get on Twitter or Facebook, the sites are filled to overflowing with HEAVY liberal bias. They may not 'be' political entities, but they certainly swing hard in one direction.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Yes and when AWS shuts them down and ISPs block them, they are free to make their own servers and ISPs. And when the financial system shuts down their banking and all of their family members' and public supporters' banking, they are free to create a new banking system as well (assuming they can pay the regulatory fees and have people lobbying for them of course)

I’m not even going to pretend you’re attempting to make an argument in good faith. One could argue tech companies have a monopoly problem but you’re just saying a private company should allow anyone to say anything on their platform and throwing a ridiculous slippery slope out in front of it.

> One could argue tech companies have a monopoly problem but you’re just saying a private company should allow anyone to say anything on their platform and throwing a ridiculous slippery slope out in front of it.

It is not as simple as you make it out to be. The real slipperly slope is unlimited powers that Big Tech currently enjoys. But yeah you and everyone else will realise in days to come as to why this argument of yours was wrong to begin with. You haven't thought it through. You just want a short-term problem resolved immediately: throw Trump out of office asap, shutdown conspiracy theory sites and stifle any expression for the right wing. You haven't thought of the long term consequences a.k.a Second Order Effects.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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A historic event occurred - how could you take that to mean it was coordinated?

A historic event for whom? The United States right? Social Media operates in 100+ countries. What happened in USA is historic for you maybe. Not for us. USA is not the World. Regimes fall every now and then. Coup attempts happen all the time. I have never seen media or social media ban any Government account over it. I guess Social Media has a different conscience for when regime change/coup-d'etat happens in say Ira…

stop. so naive. trump has all kinds of media to use. in this case he was an irresponsible user and he was cut off, as happens all day long. just stop with the bloviation.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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> It wasn't even close to a coup You'd never say that if it wasn't "your people" in there. Never. Don't claim to be a patriot ever again if you think dismissing the first successful attack on a congressional session (hell, the VP was in there too) in the history of the republic is a good argument to make. Hell, five people died. That's more than at the Reichstag fire (I checked with Godwin, by the way, he approves).…

I am interested in the truth. The truth is that the events at the capitol were not a coup. This is deliberate propagandist language. >This was a moment of deep shame. And comments like yours make it worse. The people turning their back on our civil liberties are far more shameful.

> The truth is that the events at the capitol were not a coup. This is deliberate propagandist language.

You say so only because it failed. If the tunnels didn't exist? If the mob had been faster or better armed? How would it have ended? Would Pence and Pelosi still be hostages?

(Edit: not worth continuing. But I bet anything if I kept going you'd eventually pull out a thesaurus and zing me with BUT it's REALLY an "autogolpe!")

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Yes, definitely. I too find it incredibly sad. Give me the 90's Internet back.

Burning all your alt accounts to evade a forums ban is basically the 90s internet.

I was thinking more like Usenet, which was fully distributed and difficult to censor. Individuals could establish "killfiles" to filter out people or threads they didn't want to see, etc.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Question not directly related to this event, but triggered by this: Has any of the countries around the world built a communication mechanism to directly reach its people without using any third-party platforms? Isn't this a must, in case external/foreign malicious actors forcibly take control of the major third-party platforms used in a country someday in future?

Sure, most countries have such systems, multiple different ones in fact, not all necessarily using the internet. They're usually used for emergencies only though.

Redundancy is key if you're warding against foreign interference, nuclear events and the like. But at the end of the day if you're a free democracy you let people use whatever they want for the day to day stuff and you end up having to use those platforms to reach your citizens as well.

My country tried doing its own thing a couple decades ago. It's called the minitel. Look it up if you haven't heard of it, it's pretty neat :)

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