Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground

Post by temp667 » Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 8:08 PM UTC

covercash wrote: post #100

PJDK wrote: post #12

Reading through it seems like people are misinterpreting this. By my reading the car has an anti-theft device that was triggered by the installation of seats. There is a remote system to override the anti-theft device, but that doesn't work because it requires mobile reception. It's kind of funny, but this doesn't really tell you anything about the dangers of "smart cars" or anything.

> the car has an anti-theft device that was triggered by the installation of seats. There is a remote system to override the anti-theft device, but that doesn't work because it requires mobile reception. I’ve been following the thread on Reddit and there’s an added piece you’re missing. The mechanic triggered the anti-theft device so the car went into an initial lock down, that can be disabled remotely by Ferrari. Th…

Post by smichel17 » Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 8:10 PM UTC

JKCalhoun wrote: post #170

LeonM wrote: post #70

A lot of readers here, and on Reddit seem to be misunderstanding the situation. The way I understand it, this car was taken in by a garage for 'seat installation'. I presume this means after market seats. The car disabled itself during installation. The OP assumed due to an anti-temper device, but it could have been any failure mode. Most modern cars with airbags will have sensors in the seats to disable some of the…

The way I understand it: "smart" everything is getting too clever for its own good. In your example, why not have a push-button override to allow the car to reset after seat installation? Soft-everything. I miss my hardware switches. - signed getting grumpy, getting old man

Post by boogies » Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 8:11 PM UTC

birdyrooster wrote: post #99

jobu wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The way I understand it, this car was taken in by a garage for 'seat installation'. I presume this means after market seats. It was even more basic than that. They were installing a child's carseat for the owner, and I believe it was an anti-theft system that was triggered. The story reminded me a lot of the rental car that bricked itself because it lost cellular service - https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/02/drive…

Who puts a child’s carseat in a Ferrari?

Post by nomel » Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 8:23 PM UTC

Dylan16807 wrote: post #237

nomel wrote: post #190

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This is false. According to the reddit thread [1], the anti-theft tamper safeguard (no network required) was triggered. Since it was triggered when there was no network connectivity, network connectivity could not be used re-enable the car. So, no network connectivity was used to disable or enable the car. 1. https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/j9qn...

Which part is false? The remote control wasn't used here but it normally works and they tried to use it. So it does show that these cars could be hacked remotely.

Post by Dylan16807 » Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 8:31 PM UTC

PeterisP wrote: post #245

Dylan16807 wrote: post #224

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What goes wrong with a woman that is the expected size?

Very few women are of the expected size (5' 9" tall) aimed to represent the average male; most women automatically falls into the "too short / other-wise-outside-of-the-norm" as far as car safety testing was concerned until recently - AFAIK cars made since 2012 should be also tested on smaller, female-sized dummies which also created an incentive to alter how they are built.