Couldn't some strategically placed cell repeaters solve the reception issue?
Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground
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Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground
#12Reading through it seems like people are misinterpreting this.
By my reading the car has an anti-theft device that was triggered by the installation of seats. There is a remote system to override the anti-theft device, but that doesn't work because it requires mobile reception.
It's kind of funny, but this doesn't really tell you anything about the dangers of "smart cars" or anything.
Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground
#13Still better than their 2020 F1 car
Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground
#14Couldn't some strategically placed cell repeaters solve the reception issue?
Yeah, but I think the broader point I'd that a car shouldn't be disabled like this in the first place due to no reception.
Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do you know the person in question isn't renting both spots? And unfortunately renting two spots is often a requirement in Europe for example because the lot sizes tend to be so small that it is impossible to park with a wide car otherwise.
Those are full-sized spots. People with oversized vehicles and who rent spots normally park astrive the line, not across at 45. That is done by someone who doesn't want anyone near his car. And even if this guy has rented two spots, that is still being a jerk to all the other people who want to rent/use spots. Do that around my town and you will find motorcycles parked in the triangles you have left behind. I saw a p…
Motorcyclists are mostly jerks too because of the noise they make tho.
Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground
#16Reading through it seems like people are misinterpreting this. By my reading the car has an anti-theft device that was triggered by the installation of seats. There is a remote system to override the anti-theft device, but that doesn't work because it requires mobile reception. It's kind of funny, but this doesn't really tell you anything about the dangers of "smart cars" or anything.
So what happens if someone tries to steal a car in a cark park?
Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground
#17The bricking shows that all these “smart” cars with remote software control are liable to hacking (and potentially deadly accidents). We should have a choice to turn them off selectively. The worst part is that car companies don’t understand software and digital security. https://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-hig...
Imagine doing that on a busy public highway for a wired.com article ...
'we did it in a safe way'
They had no control over the cars behind, anything could have happened.
Their attack could have been demonstrated on a parking lot or private road.
Their information did need urgently sharing, and while I understand the common need for a bit for drama, this was utterly unsafe & for the good of everyone I hope they've pulled their heads out of their asses since making that video!
Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do you know the person in question isn't renting both spots? And unfortunately renting two spots is often a requirement in Europe for example because the lot sizes tend to be so small that it is impossible to park with a wide car otherwise.
Those are full-sized spots. People with oversized vehicles and who rent spots normally park astrive the line, not across at 45. That is done by someone who doesn't want anyone near his car. And even if this guy has rented two spots, that is still being a jerk to all the other people who want to rent/use spots. Do that around my town and you will find motorcycles parked in the triangles you have left behind. I saw a p…
I observe no directionality pattern among people who rent two spots. Do you have a large sample set that you are extrapolating your assumptions from?
I'm a person who rents multiple spots next to each other. And yes if the garage is willing to rent out multiple spots to me, I'll absolutely park however I like, generally in such a way as to prevent people from boxing me in.
Unfortunately parking in Europe is a fairly scarce commodity and a "full sized parking lot" may be barely enough to tetris in a car like this, but you won't be able to open the door and get out. Certainly not without hitting the car parked next to you.
We can get into the whole theoretical argument of why do people need a Ferrari or why should they be able to get more spots than people who can't buy a Ferrari and it just comes down to market economics. In so far as a person can afford 2 spots in a garage, I'm sure that most garages won't discriminate between clients. Nothing stops _you_ from renting out 2 spots and then you can park however you like. If you think that is fundamentally unfair, you should campaign for a policy that garages can only rent out one spot to one client.
Maybe this particular Ferrari driver is an asshat and is taking up two spots while paying for only one. Those people exist. But you have zero information that it is the case here and are just jumping to conclusions because (and I'm jumping to conclusions here) you've been triggered by bad behavior in the past?
Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground
#19Reading through it seems like people are misinterpreting this. By my reading the car has an anti-theft device that was triggered by the installation of seats. There is a remote system to override the anti-theft device, but that doesn't work because it requires mobile reception. It's kind of funny, but this doesn't really tell you anything about the dangers of "smart cars" or anything.
It tells us that the people who are designing these things are not considering some of the most basic issues.
Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground
#20Reading through it seems like people are misinterpreting this. By my reading the car has an anti-theft device that was triggered by the installation of seats. There is a remote system to override the anti-theft device, but that doesn't work because it requires mobile reception. It's kind of funny, but this doesn't really tell you anything about the dangers of "smart cars" or anything.
So what happens if someone tries to steal a car in a cark park?
They can joyride around inside the parking garage as long as they like.