The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

Post by maerF0x0 » Thu, May 21, 2020, 6:06 PM UTC

ciarannolan wrote: post #119

coronadisaster wrote: post #54

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And the police killed nearly 6,000 people in the U.S. since 2015, without due process: https://github.com/washingtonpost/data-police-shootings/blob... (that equals to about 3 per day, I am surprised that I don't hear more about them)

Is due process required when someone points a gun at the police? Charges them with a knife? Tries to run them over? I watch 2-3 new police bodycam videos per day thanks to some neat Youtube channels (Police Activity and Real World Police). I've seen maybe one or two shootings on those channels that were clearly wrong, out of hundreds that were justified or a reasonable person could find to be justified. Wondering if…

Post by dvtrn » Thu, May 21, 2020, 6:10 PM UTC

shadowgovt wrote: post #107

dvtrn wrote: post #92

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"America" means different things to different people. Well there's one qualifier right there. The American Mythos of "all men are created equal" has failed to line up with the American reality for quite a long damn time and for reasons that don't require much more effort to "qualify" than is needed to lift up an arm and point at a history book. It's been qualified, documented and analyzed thoroughly enough that the q…

If that's the criteria, America never started. That line was penned when Americans still kept other human beings as slaves. The long arc of history of the US bends towards that phrase becoming more true, but there's still a long way to go for everyone to be demonstrably accepting of it.

Post by maerF0x0 » Thu, May 21, 2020, 6:14 PM UTC

Jah6Aihe wrote: post #9

Here is what I do myself to avoid surveillance culture, in case anyone find it useful. 1. I always use local apps rather than webservices if possible. I use only free software, built from source, to be sure there's no tracker in it (I would love to find a way to whitelist which apps can access the network, but I haven't found a way for that yet). There's almost always a way to perform a task locally. 2. I have a copy…

Post by [deleted] » Thu, May 21, 2020, 6:16 PM UTC

LaurentMonin wrote: post #127

Jah6Aihe wrote: post #9

Here is what I do myself to avoid surveillance culture, in case anyone find it useful. 1. I always use local apps rather than webservices if possible. I use only free software, built from source, to be sure there's no tracker in it (I would love to find a way to whitelist which apps can access the network, but I haven't found a way for that yet). There's almost always a way to perform a task locally. 2. I have a copy…

You can be identified by the wall-of-text you just wrote [you switched recently from arch to gentoo...]

Post by malandrew » Thu, May 21, 2020, 6:27 PM UTC

shadowgovt wrote: post #73

malandrew wrote: post #62

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I wouldn't even say it is just the threat model that changed. Humans in developed markets now have a very unhealthy relationship with death to the point where any policy that minimizes death is acceptable consequences be damned. We no longer see death as a normal and natural part of life like previous generations did because it's not as prevalent as it once was. The threat model you just described in another era woul…

I don't think I can point to an era in US history where an attack on a couple buildings resulting in thousands dead would have been brushed under the rug as "Well, death just happens." I'd even argue that's not a healthy response to a human-caused tragedy like that. Seeing death as normal and natural carries its own antisocial pathologies. War is more justifiable if "Everyone has to die some time."