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Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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post #8

Firefox (or OSs) should add a feature that randomly makes requests to a bunch of unrelated websites just to mess up their data collection and render it useless. This can only work if it's widely deployed.

Authorities will either look at the source code, compel the authors to explain how it works, push their own changes for the code in question, or just empirically monitor the random behavior and build models to filter such noise.

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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From the article: "law enforcement agencies such as the FBI and CIA can continue to look through the browsing history of American citizens without the need for a warrant."

There is no evidence that they have been doing this. The objection to Section 215 is that a FISA court could in theory say that they can, not that they are already doing this.

It then links to an article about an amendment providing additional oversight that mischaracterizes it as providing additional surveillance powers (there are no additional surveillance powers in that amendment) that can be politically abused.

In short, it's a sensationalist article from a blog with no editorial standards.

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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So the US, with its Constitution protecting the people from its Government, is allowing this whilst also considering Edward Snowden a traitor? It seems something has shifted 180 degrees since WW2, and the US Government has quietly won the game where the goal was to shit on the entirety of the history upon which it was built whilst, at precisely the same time, pointing to the Constitution as the reason why "America is…

The United States used to be an example to the world. As a nation it used to take its founding principles seriously. That started changing during the cold war and became most obvious post-9/11.

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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If this is true, the silver lining is that it could become an albatross around the Patriot Act; spying on browser history is not a defensible means of preventing terrorism without absurd arguments. But hold up. Has anyone read the bill? I haven't read the full text of the bill, but reading the summary [1], parts of the bill actually sound positive to me: > The Federal Bureau of Investigation may not seek certain FISA…

From memory of articles surrounding this, it was the failure to add a provision preventing warrantless tracking that was scandalous. It is unclear to me if that implies some court decision that allows it without that preventative measure.

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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The scary takeaway here, in my opinion, is the draconian measures the US is expanding while everyone is too busy worrying about COVID-19 to notice.

The very tactics that "taking the red pill" support. The NYT does it some justice with extensive background information—which the author of this article, it seems, doesn't consider. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/19/technology/elon-musk-tesl...

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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post #9

Here is what I do myself to avoid surveillance culture, in case anyone find it useful. 1. I always use local apps rather than webservices if possible. I use only free software, built from source, to be sure there's no tracker in it (I would love to find a way to whitelist which apps can access the network, but I haven't found a way for that yet). There's almost always a way to perform a task locally. 2. I have a copy…

I wonder which OS you are using. I would definitely recommend Qubes OS from what you wrote.

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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I can't even imagine how muted the Civil Rights era would have been had the FBI had this power back then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI%E2%80%93King_suicide_lette...

Let's not pretend that things are materially worse than they were back then. We certainly aren't blackmailing civil rights leaders into suicide anymore within the FBI.

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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So the US, with its Constitution protecting the people from its Government, is allowing this whilst also considering Edward Snowden a traitor? It seems something has shifted 180 degrees since WW2, and the US Government has quietly won the game where the goal was to shit on the entirety of the history upon which it was built whilst, at precisely the same time, pointing to the Constitution as the reason why "America is…

>you're fucked I'm sorry but any anecdotal spinning of history and current events supporting a bold claim about the downfall of western society is just outright non scientific, immeasurable, and quite frankly below educated discourse. Now if you have a thesis about the sunset of western hegemony backed by reduced gdp numbers, geopolitical influence, and crime stats, thats a more worthwhile discussion. Call me old fas…

Going full tinfoil hat...

We've seen the GDP number manipulated during this crisis, Gov propping the economy up with lots of self-debt that we cant pay back.

We've seen that other developed counties in the world bawk at us. Example being the American woman who killed a guy in the UK by driving on the wrong side; and the US said she had diplomatic immunity, when she did not. [0]

Crime stats... Crime isnt crime if it isnt punished or even taken to the courts proper. A sitting president was impeached, but not removed from office. He was charged with high-crimes. If you need a statistic, just look at how stacked the government is from a 2-party system.

I'd completely agree that America is fucked.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Harry_Dunn

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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The scary takeaway here is the draconian measures the US is expanding while everyone is too busy worrying about COVID-19 to notice.

The very same tactics that "taking the red pill" support. The NYT examines that misguided tweet with extensive background information (which the author of this article, it seems, doesn't consider). https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/19/technology/elon-musk-tesl...

He also apparently considers shutting down digital public services in one of the most hard-hit metropolitan areas with dick picks and memes as "hope."

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