Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong

Post by ryandrake » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 7:29 PM UTC

tibbon wrote: post #215

ahelwer wrote: post #197

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Employer-dependent healthcare and visa status are powerful tools of control. Let's also not forget sky-high housing costs, ensuring an astronomical savings burn rate when unemployed.

Yea; but I'm a programmer/engineer. Last time I needed a job, I had a contract for $15k that month within two hours, and an interview for a full time position by the end of the day. People in our position have the power to do things like that, and we should use that power for good.

Post by zepto » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 7:30 PM UTC

CharlesColeman wrote: post #148

zepto wrote: post #142

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Removing an emoji from a keyboard is as scary as hacking all of someone’s personal data?

> Removing an emoji from a keyboard is as scary as hacking all of someone’s personal data? Yes. While seemly small, removing the emoji is an instance of political censorship.

Post by jmchuster » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 7:31 PM UTC

r00fus wrote: post #260

laughinghan wrote: post #245

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You genuinely believe Tim Cook has more leverage than China? By what fraction do you think Apple's profits would drop if it had to rebuild all of its factories outside of China? By what fraction do you think China's GDP or tax revenue would drop if it kicked Apple out of China? Even if that situation were reversed, Tim Cook answers to shareholders via a board of directors. He's legally obligated to maximize sharehold…

> He's legally obligated to maximize shareholder value. Is this actually true? Or just a "institutional wisdom"?

Post by ako » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 7:32 PM UTC

dpkonofa wrote: post #230

tibbon wrote: post #218

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Sure; but literally any day Tim Cook can say, "Ok China, I no longer play your game. Enjoy having no support or economic progress from us - bye". My point wasn't a specific developer (as you point out, they might have been in China themselves and unable to do otherwise), but that anyone in the chain who is "safe" and in a position of power and privilege to not-play China's game, I find morally dubious. Engineers in t…

>Enjoy having no support or economic progress from us - bye". This would have to be done on a federal level. Just because Apple stopped doing this doesn't mean China would be any worse off. Google, Amazon, and every other tech company would still get in line to do whatever it takes to get that sweet, sweet money.

Post by rdbell » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 7:34 PM UTC

milankragujevic wrote: post #174

jrockway wrote: post #172

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The last time I was in China, HN was already banned.

I mean, AFAIK my blog isn't. Yet. I get visitors from China on my post about controlling the world's cheapest quadcopter from a PC via arduino and nrf24l01+... edit: I just checked, it's accessible from mainland China, though quite slow.

  ```
  developer@Developers-MacBook-Pro-2:~% curl -x http://xxxx:xxxx_country-China@proxy.packetstream.io:31112 https://ifconfig.co/json
  {"ip":"223.166.106.16","ip_decimal":3752225296,"country":"China","country_eu":false,"country_iso":"CN","city":"Qingpu","latitude":31.1539,"longitude":121.1141,"asn":"AS17621","asn_org":"China Unicom Shanghai network"}
  ```

  ```
  developer@Developers-MacBook-Pro-2:~% curl -v -x https://xxxx:xxxx_country-China@proxy.packetstream.io:31111 https://news.ycombinator.com/
  *   Trying 34.234.216.249...
  * TCP_NODELAY set
  * Connected to proxy.packetstream.io (34.234.216.249) port 31112 (#0)
  * Establish HTTP proxy tunnel to news.ycombinator.com:443
  * Proxy auth using Basic with user 'xxxx'
  > CONNECT news.ycombinator.com:443 HTTP/1.1
  > Host: news.ycombinator.com:443
  > Proxy-Authorization: Basic xxxx
  > User-Agent: curl/7.54.0
  > Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive
  >