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Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by behringer »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #324
behringer wrote: post #163

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Plant based meats is what the chains have been wanting to do all along. Plant is cheap, doesn't matter how disgusting it is at the processing plant, because they make it look like meat anyway. And now the public has decided that plant based meats are healthy(?!?) and not loaded with salt and void of real nutrition.

I'm sorry, is there some kind of simulated nutrition I'm not aware of? Say, something that can legally be labeled as protein which is not, in fact, protein?

I guess people are only offended by heavily processed foods when those foods aren't veggie burgers with large advertising budgets.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by detaro »

wil421 wrote: post #185
maximente wrote: post #153

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KFC isn't rolling out thai/indian curries, garlic chinese broccoli, or cheese gorditas any time soon so in this context it seems odd to somehow demonize fake meat while suggesting foreign cuisines are superior. what's the point? most of the interest i'm guessing is coming from what was previously thought to be "unthinkable": that is, fast food chains whose core business revolves around animal flesh introducing someth…

Personally I’d rather just eat the sides at KFC than have fake over processed chicken. I just don’t get the need for fake meat. Everyone seems to be against over processed foods and fake meats seem more processed than anything else.

If "everyone" were against over-processed food it wouldn't as popular as it evidently is.

Great for you that you don't miss meat in your diet, but is it so hard to imagine others do, especially if they've grown up in places were it is a big part of the typical diet?

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by mackey »

shados wrote: post #80
_bxg1 wrote: post #2

I think it's fascinating how all these fast-food chains are jumping on artificial meat. It makes perfect sense: meat is expensive and difficult to work with, so low-cost chains like these have been serving really disgustingly low-quality meat for quite some time now; in some cases it could barely even be called meat. Plant-based meat, on the other hand, can be both cheaper and less gross at the same time, and it migh…

The impossible whooper was inevitable and brilliant. As you mentioned, the meats served were often already low quality, with fillers, and it was arguable if it was even meat. Some fast food chains served "100% beef", but it didn't taste very different from the other crap. So the bar is low. Replacing questionable meat with hype pseudo-meat is a straight win all around. I'm as carnivore as they come, but if I have to…

I agree with others, get with the times. I am pretty sure all the major national fast food burgers are 100% beef, no fillers, no preservatives.

I don't eat a ton of fast food anymore, and when I do its usually McDonalds, but I have always enjoyed the Whopper. I had one a few months ago at an airport and tried the Impossible Whopper last week. It's close, but the beef version is still better in my opinion.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by colordrops »

tptacek wrote: post #84
_bxg1 wrote: post #2

I think it's fascinating how all these fast-food chains are jumping on artificial meat. It makes perfect sense: meat is expensive and difficult to work with, so low-cost chains like these have been serving really disgustingly low-quality meat for quite some time now; in some cases it could barely even be called meat. Plant-based meat, on the other hand, can be both cheaper and less gross at the same time, and it migh…

Can you make a clearer, better-cited case for "low cost chains serve meat that could barely even be called meat"? KFC serves (primarily) whole muscle chicken†, and the general US appetite for "dark meat" chicken is so low that we've been accused of "dumping" it on other countries and messing up their markets --- KFC seems to have no trouble sourcing its inputs effectively. KFC's suppliers include all the major chicke…

You totally misread the person you are replying to. They are speaking about fast-food chains general. In fact they only mention one chain by name and it's not KFC.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

behringer wrote: post #331
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry, is there some kind of simulated nutrition I'm not aware of? Say, something that can legally be labeled as protein which is not, in fact, protein?

I guess people are only offended by heavily processed foods when those foods aren't veggie burgers with large advertising budgets.

You made a distinction between 'real nutrition' and what these foods are. Processing is irrelevant. Food has nutritional qualities regardless of how it became what it is. So I'm asking you to explain your reasoning that these foods do not have 'real nutrition'.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by yters »

sterkekoffie wrote: post #280
yters wrote: post #219

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Doubleplusgood newspeak!

I'm not sure what parallels you're trying to suggest but they're probably not valid ones. 'Meat' being used strictly in reference to animal flesh is a relatively recent development. It's shorthand, in fact, so those truly concerned for linguistic integrity might opt to use the original term, "flesh meat."

Basically, they are using the connotations of common venacular usage of 'meat' to market something that is the opposite of the venacular 'meat'. Newspeak is all about naming one thing by its opposite, and using the connotations of the latter to hide the real meaning, like 1984's ministry of truth.

So, it leaves me with the impression that this is not merely normal advertising by association, but a more agenda driven marketing move to modify people's consumption of meat by modifying language. For some reason, that leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

If eating meat is really so objectively bad, why do you have to try and trick people into not eating it? The more someone has to rely on tricks and deception to achieve their goal, the less likely their goal is actually in everyone's best interest.

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Post by slig »

hbarka wrote: post #315

What does the Paleo community think of Beyond Meat? I think they would highly object to the canola oil in Beyond Beef, which is not considered a good vegetable oil.

Well, it's processed food, so there's no reason to believe they'd consider it as "Paleo" in any way or form.

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Post by hombre_fatal »

xvector wrote: post #106
nightski wrote: post #91

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Watch when it has zero impact on climate change because the extensive ingredient list on the beyond meat burger which requires a huge supply chain shipping products all around the country along with a complicated manufacturing process requiring energy ends up having a similar environmental impact to simple animal farming.

Even if the environmental impact is nil, I'm fine with the reduction in suffering imposed on tens of billions of animals a year. The scale of suffering created by the meat industry is unfathomable so I think this is a step in the right direction regardless.

Here's just one thing our ag industry does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_u0jxi_v-w (male chick maceration). Nice video to enjoy with your factory farmed eggs.

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Post by navigatesol »

megaman821 wrote: post #304
crazygringo wrote: post #250

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> low-cost chains like these have been serving really disgustingly low-quality meat for quite some time now; in some cases it could barely even be called meat. I wish this urban legend would die. Fast-food beef and chicken at major chains is no different in quality from what you buy at the supermarket. A McDonald's burger is 100% ground beef and salt, no "additives" or "fillers". And Taco Bell ground beef is ~90% bee…

You seem to be in the know. What on earth is in a Jack In The Box taco?

It's not really about being in the know, it's common sense. Could McDonald's survive if they were selling garbage meat? I mean,it's possible. But why not just serve 100% ground beef exactly like you say you do, and charge consumers accordingly and make billions of dollars over many decades.

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Post by robin_reala »

zsrxx wrote: post #292
robin_reala wrote: post #111

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Haven’t been to one in a while, but my local one apparently has a halloumi burger: http://kfc.nu/var-meny/burgers/halloumi-burger/

kfc.nu ? Why that TLD?

Sweden has a big history with .nu (“now” in Swedish) and .se seems to be taken by a local business. Doesn’t seem to have stopped kfc.com from trying to redirect to kfc.se though when clicking on the “take me to my local site” button, oops.
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