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Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by Spivak »

Someone1234 wrote: post #87
_bxg1 wrote: post #4

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Pretty sure their nuggets are a huge seller

They are, but they don't contain much chicken meat. 40% of the filler is meat and the rest is "other"[0] (fat, tissue, spicule, etc). Including the breading the majority of the weight of a chicken nugget isn't chicken meat. Contrast this with Chick-Fil-A's nuggets, which are 100% chicken breast meat (with thinner breading to boot). [0] https://www.motherjones.com/food/2013/10/whats-chicken-nugge...

This is hopefully a stupid question but doesn't that make Chick-Fil-A's nuggets "wings" or "chicken breast chunks."

I mean they're good -- don't get me wrong but I don't see anything wrong with nuggets made by grinding up some of the ugly parts of the chicken. I basically consider them two separate things. I thought it was actually kind of silly for them to grind up the good bits of the chicken just for a marketing push.

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Post by ghaff »

matthewmacleod wrote: post #194
ghaff wrote: post #182

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The "lab-grown" term is [EDIT: sometimes and apparently incorrectly] used for plant-based meat substitutes like Impossible Burger. It probably shouldn't be, but it is.

I honestly don’t think there can be any argument there. Plant-based meat substitutes have been around for a long time, are emphatically not “lab grown meat”, and I have never heard anybody refer to them as such. That’s a distinct category which has also been receiving a lot of attention in the past few years.

For example:

https://www.cnet.com/news/meet-impossible-foods-lab-grown-ve...

http://www.makery.info/en/2018/05/07/jai-teste-limpossible-b...

I expect with actual lab-grown meat substitutes starting to get attention, people are more precise to distinguish between the substitutes today.

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Post by megaman821 »

crazygringo wrote: post #250
_bxg1 wrote: post #2

I think it's fascinating how all these fast-food chains are jumping on artificial meat. It makes perfect sense: meat is expensive and difficult to work with, so low-cost chains like these have been serving really disgustingly low-quality meat for quite some time now; in some cases it could barely even be called meat. Plant-based meat, on the other hand, can be both cheaper and less gross at the same time, and it migh…

> low-cost chains like these have been serving really disgustingly low-quality meat for quite some time now; in some cases it could barely even be called meat. I wish this urban legend would die. Fast-food beef and chicken at major chains is no different in quality from what you buy at the supermarket. A McDonald's burger is 100% ground beef and salt, no "additives" or "fillers". And Taco Bell ground beef is ~90% bee…

You seem to be in the know. What on earth is in a Jack In The Box taco?

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Post by anonymouswacker »

phil248 wrote: post #284
anonymouswacker wrote: post #278

I was a vegetarian, vegan, then back to vegetarian, then flexitarian, and now predominately carnivore -- over the course of 15 years. The me from 2 years ago would be overjoyed about this "progress", from an ethical standpoint and from believing that meat is bad for you. Present me sees this as what it is: another unhealthy product in an already oversaturated marketplace to dupe suckers.

I have a hard time understanding how a proponent of vegetarianism, presuming you are one, could be so dismissive of a technological advancement that will almost certainly lead to reduced meat consumption.

I am as health and environmentally conscious now as I ever was, only aware that vegetarian & vegan diets in America are atrociously unhealthy. Offering cheap, low quality, fake food is not a technological advancement.

And I am not sure meat consumption is the problem.

Factory farming and industrialized agriculture are the big issues: the greed of the majority of the food supply causes death, destruction, and misery on beings regardless if you are eating kale or cow.

Eat pasture-raised & local if you care about the environment and your own health...

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Post by [deleted] »

matthewmacleod wrote: post #194
ghaff wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "lab-grown" term is [EDIT: sometimes and apparently incorrectly] used for plant-based meat substitutes like Impossible Burger. It probably shouldn't be, but it is.

I honestly don’t think there can be any argument there. Plant-based meat substitutes have been around for a long time, are emphatically not “lab grown meat”, and I have never heard anybody refer to them as such. That’s a distinct category which has also been receiving a lot of attention in the past few years.

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Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by devmunchies »

xvector wrote: post #108
kyrra wrote: post #97

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> ... can be both cheaper ... Impossible Burger patties are actually more expensive. For example, Burger King: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/meatless-fast-food-burgers... > The meatless burger is $5.99, around a dollar more than the regular Whopper with meat.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the US heavily subsidize meat costs?

yes. and corn and soy production is also subsidized which is fed to livestock.

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Post by hombre_fatal »

ghaff wrote: post #182
colobas wrote: post #156

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A plant-based burger. Lab-grown meat is made from animal cells

The "lab-grown" term is [EDIT: sometimes and apparently incorrectly] used for plant-based meat substitutes like Impossible Burger. It probably shouldn't be, but it is.

I guarantee you that people are only doing this by accident when you see it.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lab-grown-meat/

I, too, used to confuse Memphis Meats with Impossible Food / Beyond Meat.

It's just that news of lab-grown meat and outfits like Impossible Food kinda sprung up at the same time in the news within the last 5 years and it's easy to confuse the endeavors. In fact, I see this misconception enough that I think IF/BM benefit from the confusion.

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Post by fromthestart »

telesilla wrote: post #157
fromthestart wrote: post #130

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>we use a wonderful Italian caterer, so flavour isn't going to be missed A non meat dish is still going to taste like a non-meat dish. Perhaps your colleagues were just being polite and avoiding treading into politically charged territory after you brought up the Amazon. Personally I'm a picky eater and vegan/vegetarian dishes simply do not compare to meat. I'm sure others feel similarly. Though for one meal I suppos…

I honestly don't understand why it's such a big deal that so many people insist meat must be part of a meal? To the degree that in Argentina they say "si no hay carne, no hay comida" (if there is no meat, it is not a meal). It feels like if I insisted on having bread at every table sitting. Clearly, it can be seen as just a habit and not a requirement?

The big deal is the fact that being told that the "flavor won't be missed" or that I won't be able to tell the difference is condescending.

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Post by homologate »

rtkwe wrote: post #267
the-dude wrote: post #253

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Or maybe they realized you are off the cliff and not to be reasoned with? The Amazon burns every year.

And some of that burning is because people intentionally set fires to clear land for cattle.

> Scientists studying satellite image data from the fires in the Amazon rain forest said that most of the fires are burning on agricultural land where the forest had already been cleared.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/24/world/america...

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