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Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by nightski »

_bxg1 wrote: post #2

I think it's fascinating how all these fast-food chains are jumping on artificial meat. It makes perfect sense: meat is expensive and difficult to work with, so low-cost chains like these have been serving really disgustingly low-quality meat for quite some time now; in some cases it could barely even be called meat. Plant-based meat, on the other hand, can be both cheaper and less gross at the same time, and it migh…

Watch when it has zero impact on climate change because the extensive ingredient list on the beyond meat burger which requires a huge supply chain shipping products all around the country along with a complicated manufacturing process requiring energy ends up having a similar environmental impact to simple animal farming.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by Djvacto »

dragonwriter wrote: post #70
Djvacto wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, no one wins since they no longer use beef tallow, but do add beef flavoring to the spuds. So we can't eat them and people who liked the tallow-fried ones don't enjoy them as much (?)

The “natural beef flavor” doesn't, AFAIK, have beef in it (except insofar as hydrolyzed milk protein, originating as it does in a cow, is “beef”.) The construction “natural X flavor” in an ingredient list means “flavorings that can legally be described as natural which are intended to simulate X”.

https://www.thoughtco.com/mcdonalds-french-fries-still-not-v...

Seems like as of a bit earlier this year, they still contained animal products, but this is in the US (in Canada, for example, it's vegan ingredients only).

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by bart_spoon »

_bxg1 wrote: post #33
yters wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

French fries and soda are vegetarian.

There was a lawsuit a few years back when vegetarians discovered that McDonald's was flavoring their fries with beef juice. I do think they've since stopped the practice.

Malcolm Gladwell did an entire podcast episode on this. It wasn't a few years ago, it was like the early 90s. And it wasn't that vegetarians were pissed, it was because someone had a heart attack from eating terribly, and then made it his mission to run a campaign against the "dangerously" unhealthy fries made from beef tallow. Eventually McDonalds caved for PR purposes.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by r00fus »

esotericn wrote: post #28

Here in Sweden, pretty much every fast food outlet has a vegan option. It's honestly great, if nothing else simply because it makes it easier to be vegan - a huge blocker is often the fact that whilst you're on a road trip or similar your options may well be "eat chips or a cold premade sandwich" otherwise. Though (as I posted in the other thread) I wish it were easier to source decent food on the go.

A year ago my wife started eating a whole lot less meat (she has experienced a lot less allergies due to this) and this year when we went to France, it was clear that "veggie/vegan" options at restaurants are often missing (we ate mostly at friend/family houses, so it was mainly an annoyance).

McD at CDG had only one non-meat item that wasn't a snack and that was their egg wrap. Even the salads had some kind of cold cuts in there.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by ravedave5 »

szatkus wrote: post #6

Is there any plans to expand Beyond Meat, well, beyond USA?

They Just IPO'd in part to get money to expand their production volume and drive down cost. I expect within the next few years it will go much wider. Also it's great that there are two main entities fighting each other with several large companies jumping in. All this competition means reduced prices and more volume.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by sethammons »

dymk wrote: post #34
thomasfromcdnjs wrote: post #10

I think it is a rather toxic movement that we are continuing to label things that which they are not. "fried plant-based ‘chicken’" it makes no sense at all A lot of it is egged on by the vegan/vegetarians and is the definition of false advertising. I saw "vegan" mince in the meat section the other day. I feel sorry for the elderly or learning impaired who might be accidentally buying soy substitutes when their bodie…

It literally has in big bold letters on the front “Plant based meat”

Isn't a cow "plant based meat"?

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by kyrra »

_bxg1 wrote: post #2

I think it's fascinating how all these fast-food chains are jumping on artificial meat. It makes perfect sense: meat is expensive and difficult to work with, so low-cost chains like these have been serving really disgustingly low-quality meat for quite some time now; in some cases it could barely even be called meat. Plant-based meat, on the other hand, can be both cheaper and less gross at the same time, and it migh…

> ... can be both cheaper ...

Impossible Burger patties are actually more expensive. For example, Burger King:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/meatless-fast-food-burgers...

> The meatless burger is $5.99, around a dollar more than the regular Whopper with meat.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by hutzlibu »

ukyrgf wrote: post #78
_bxg1 wrote: post #2

I think it's fascinating how all these fast-food chains are jumping on artificial meat. It makes perfect sense: meat is expensive and difficult to work with, so low-cost chains like these have been serving really disgustingly low-quality meat for quite some time now; in some cases it could barely even be called meat. Plant-based meat, on the other hand, can be both cheaper and less gross at the same time, and it migh…

I just hope it isn't half-assed and they don't give up. I've noticed the newer Burger King commercials say the meatless Whopper is only available for a limited time.

"meatless Whopper is only available for a limited time"

"limited time is mostly marketing trying to create a buzz. If people buy it, they will continue to offer it. Simple as that. Otherwise it really was limited.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by pkaye »

radlad wrote: post #57
_bxg1 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a lawsuit a few years back when vegetarians discovered that McDonald's was flavoring their fries with beef juice. I do think they've since stopped the practice.

Nope, they still cook them in beef juice.

In the US they use flavorings derived from milk and wheat.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by esotericn »

r00fus wrote: post #94
esotericn wrote: post #28

Here in Sweden, pretty much every fast food outlet has a vegan option. It's honestly great, if nothing else simply because it makes it easier to be vegan - a huge blocker is often the fact that whilst you're on a road trip or similar your options may well be "eat chips or a cold premade sandwich" otherwise. Though (as I posted in the other thread) I wish it were easier to source decent food on the go.

A year ago my wife started eating a whole lot less meat (she has experienced a lot less allergies due to this) and this year when we went to France, it was clear that "veggie/vegan" options at restaurants are often missing (we ate mostly at friend/family houses, so it was mainly an annoyance). McD at CDG had only one non-meat item that wasn't a snack and that was their egg wrap. Even the salads had some kind of cold…

Mmm. In the UK McD has like, some sort of weird vegetable pattie nonsense going on.

Reminds me of old school dinners.

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