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Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by esyir »

adrianN wrote: post #166
markonen wrote: post #88

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Always? What if the other stuff is just better? It’s not like cow is some platonic ideal for a burger patty, and other ingredients can only approach but never surpass it. Of course, some people will want to taste dead cows similarly to how exotic meats have an audience today. But McDonald’s would not be the venue for something like that.

Shark fin soup is actually not that tasty (or so I've heard), yet people eat it and pay a lot for it.

The texture is nifty, the taste is whatever soup it's in. Its the kind of food with no taste of its own, but it speaks up whatever it touches.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by lancesells »

nightski wrote: post #91
_bxg1 wrote: post #2

I think it's fascinating how all these fast-food chains are jumping on artificial meat. It makes perfect sense: meat is expensive and difficult to work with, so low-cost chains like these have been serving really disgustingly low-quality meat for quite some time now; in some cases it could barely even be called meat. Plant-based meat, on the other hand, can be both cheaper and less gross at the same time, and it migh…

Watch when it has zero impact on climate change because the extensive ingredient list on the beyond meat burger which requires a huge supply chain shipping products all around the country along with a complicated manufacturing process requiring energy ends up having a similar environmental impact to simple animal farming.

I hope that's not the case. I'm much more concerned that although these might help the environment they might not be great for the health of the people eating them. These "plant-based" foods aren't exactly food that humans or animals have ever eaten in their diet. IMO the better thing is if you want to cut back on meat, eat a salad. These meat replacements aren't anything you can cook up at home so be wary.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by [deleted] »

BubRoss wrote: post #239
bad_user wrote: post #235

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The number one reason is that we've eaten red meat for millions of years, literally. Given fake meat is new and I'm not seeing it in stores nearby yet, I'm going to assume a fair comparison will take another decade, after the studies and the meta analysis show up. Until then the burden of proof is not on me ;-)

As opposed to plants?

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Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by wes-k »

bad_user wrote: post #242
BubRoss wrote: post #239

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As opposed to plants?

Thinking that eating fake meat is like eating plants is ... similar to thinking that crack cocaine has similar effects with coca leaves. I expect more from HN :-)

And you’re thinking fast food meat is similar to what we ate for millions of years ... ?

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by phonypc »

shados wrote: post #80
_bxg1 wrote: post #2

I think it's fascinating how all these fast-food chains are jumping on artificial meat. It makes perfect sense: meat is expensive and difficult to work with, so low-cost chains like these have been serving really disgustingly low-quality meat for quite some time now; in some cases it could barely even be called meat. Plant-based meat, on the other hand, can be both cheaper and less gross at the same time, and it migh…

The impossible whooper was inevitable and brilliant. As you mentioned, the meats served were often already low quality, with fillers, and it was arguable if it was even meat. Some fast food chains served "100% beef", but it didn't taste very different from the other crap. So the bar is low. Replacing questionable meat with hype pseudo-meat is a straight win all around. I'm as carnivore as they come, but if I have to…

Fast food chains almost universally serve all-and-nothing-but beef patties, and always have. I don't understand the confusion over this. You can immediately tell from the texture.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by Kaveren »

saagarjha wrote: post #266
Kaveren wrote: post #260

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They will not literally die but they will not be healthy at all, many of them will likely live less than non-vegans. It is a dangerous lifestyle motivated by poor reasoning.

Have you ever met a vegan?

Judging by your reply I think I have now.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by yters »

untog wrote: post #262
yters wrote: post #126

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Less so. At least those names, though oxymorons, do contain the actual product being sold.

Almond milk doesn't contain any more milk than Beyond Meat burgers contain meat.

Yes, I'd prefer not calling it milk. But, at least 'almond' in the product name tells me its made of almonds.

What does 'beyond meat' tell me? 'beyond' tells me we are going somewhere with 'meat' as our starting point and destination unknown.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by anonymouswacker »

I was a vegetarian, vegan, then back to vegetarian, then flexitarian, and now predominately carnivore -- over the course of 15 years.

The me from 2 years ago would be overjoyed about this "progress", from an ethical standpoint and from believing that meat is bad for you.

Present me sees this as what it is: another unhealthy product in an already oversaturated marketplace to dupe suckers.

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Post by antupis »

szatkus wrote: post #107
ent wrote: post #74

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Just bought some in Finland.

Could you tell me where exactly?

S-ryhmä had it at a normal supermarket. Also Cumulus and American Diner had it on the menu if you want to eat it in a restaurant.

Re: Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’

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Post by sterkekoffie »

yters wrote: post #219
sterkekoffie wrote: post #199

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Sweetmeat and coconut meat are both not animal muscle, while fish, which is animal muscle, is not meat. Distinctions like 'meat' and 'milk' (and pretty much any culinary term) take on meaning according to our conventions and dietary norms, and if plant-based meat grows to fit the same dietary niche as animal meat, people will call them the same thing.

Doubleplusgood newspeak!

I'm not sure what parallels you're trying to suggest but they're probably not valid ones. 'Meat' being used strictly in reference to animal flesh is a relatively recent development. It's shorthand, in fact, so those truly concerned for linguistic integrity might opt to use the original term, "flesh meat."
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