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"without turning over any of their personal data to a third-party company" Uhm.. If a user sign up on my site with apple sign in then they definetly will share personal data with a third-party: Apple. If user A wants to use product B and signs in using solution from C then C is the third-party.
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Presumably such services won't implement Sign In With Apple in the first place. People will accept it because they want the sheer quantity of users Apple provides. The useful thing about Apple is that they can force people to do things they don't particularly want to do, like accept anonymous e-mail addresses or stop using Flash. (unfortunately this is also the bad thing about Apple)
Or they already rely on FB login and are now _obligated_ by Apple to implement this feature. I work for a company that has allowed people to create accounts with FB login (meaning we don’t have an internal password associated with them). This change would ostensibly require us to also allow Apple Sign In _even if we don’t want to_ just to continue to service existing users. There really isn’t much choice here for us.…
Do you have any plans to adopt any other login provider? I would really like to, but other than email/password, I'm not really sure what would be a good alternative, and I'd really like not having any personal information stored at all - email addresses included.
According to the App Store review guidelines update posted today, Sign In with Apple will be required for any iOS app that implements a single-sign in button. "Sign In with Apple will be available for beta testing this summer. It will be required as an option for users in apps that support third-party sign-in when it is commercially available later this year." https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=06032019j
Therefore, anyone offering Facebook/Google login will also have to accept Apple's anonymized forwarded email addresses, like fc452bd5ea@privaterelay.appleid.com.
Once I chose to use Apple-Sign In will I be locked into the ecosystem? Will there be 'Apple-Sign In' for Android?
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There appears to be a web API for this, which would be cross compatible. If you have used Apple's service - which is completely opt-in - you could always go into an account and change the email you associated with it if they let you do that. And if you don't, this would be in the ballpark of switching email providers - yup, you'll need to change some accounts, because you've decided to no longer pay for the service f…
I don't think that really means what you think it means. It's very similar to the way "Apple Pay has a Web API"—websites may implement it for authentication BUT it won't allow users on a Linux/Windows machine to Pay, either. This is the same thing. You'll need to use Safari on a Mac, or it won't appear.
The "works in any browser" and "apps running on other platforms" parts seem to suggest it will work fine on Linux or Windows machines or even Android devices.
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As if everybody uses Apple.
what is the need to have such a knee jerk reply? Seriously, why would you say something like that? My comment meant: "Bye bye " for me. As in: I'm not using it anymore. I don't get you man.
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But this explicitly doesn’t work as an SSO. How can I tie that back to the actual email address they would have used to create an account using their FB / Google account? This sounds like a tremendous headache that I really don’t want to worry about. But Apple is looking to leverage their power in the app market to force me to implement a tool I may not be interested in as a merchant? I despise being strong armed. I…
It seems the email part is optional (ie you can choose to share your verified email with the company if you want). The above scenario goes against what they are trying to achieve though 1) If you support SSO and email/password - then the email and password are still stored (and possibly not hashed and salted if the developer is incompetent) - so you are at risk of compromise if you reuse passwords 2) If you store the…
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You can’t define Apple’s market as iOS customers unless there are no alternatives to iOS, which there most certainly are.
I already have explained; there's no alternative to iOS for apple mobile devices unless you're willing to pay more than $500 for an equivalent level of android device. If Apple allows Android to be installed to Apple devices, then things can be different though.
Pretty much the standard.
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Is it problematic if Apple says "you must include us if you include anyone else?" That seems anti-competitive to me.
Yes it is anticompetitive. It is using Apple’s monopoly as gatekeeper of their app store. Apple would have long ago been cited for Antitrust if Android hadn’t had most of the market. I personally think that the definition of a trust is too narrow — one member of an oligopoly abusing its position as a platform provider and strongarming people is also pretty bad. https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2019/6/3/18650861/…
If Apple was the only provider of smartphones then there would be a case for them to open up their platform to third parties.
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Therefore, anyone offering Facebook/Google login will also have to accept Apple's anonymized forwarded email addresses, like fc452bd5ea@privaterelay.appleid.com.
How will this work if I use non-Apple products (and GOD BEWARE !) move from say an iPhone to an Android or an overpriced Macbook to a PC? Once I chose to use Apple-Sign In will I be locked into the ecosystem? Will there be 'Apple-Sign In' for Android?
That said, the concept of "Apple Sign-In" for Android and other platforms is an interesting one, not likely in the short term, but possible someday!