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Re: Apple Sign In

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Per what spec? Having “a+b” deliver to address “a” is Gmail specific, as far as I know.

RFC 5233: Sieve Email Filtering: Subaddress Extension https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5233 Not Gmail-specific. Labels however are ;)

Thanks! I did not know it was a standard!

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Neither would be the only sane choice. Multinational corporations will always screw individual customers for profit. And the issue with trusting any entity with data isn't really what it will do with it today. The bigger problem is what the entity will do with it tomorrow - under new leadership. It might also be interesting to know that Apple is also in the business of selling "relevant adds". Its a tiny amount if co…

The question was not "who do you trust", but "who do you trust more ". Given that Google's business model depends on data sharing whereas Apple has made privacy one of their core features, I think the answer has to be Apple, even if you don't trust them entirely.

They care for privacy only for people who are willing to pay their high prices though.

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That’s not how antitrust law works. It’s not a test of whether a company exerts too much control over its own customers. It’s a test of whether customers have some alternatives and a real opportunity to vote with their dollars.

Yep, that’s what meant when I said that the definition was too narrow

Antitrust is among the most mature areas of law, in terms of how these concepts have been thoughtfully wrangled over. I definitely encourage you to dig deep on how market scope is determined, if that’s interesting to you. There are many ways to manipulate a market but very few rise to the level of requiring state or regional government intervention.

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I'm not the commenter. But taken at face value, your comment could be either bye bye mailinator.com (I'm not using you anymore) or bye bye mailinator.com (no one is going to use you anymore). Fwiw, I thought you meant the latter until I read your reply.

Thank you. I can see that. But if anyone really is curious about the meaning and needs clarification, I believe it’s best to ask.

I would have never thought you meant the former. I believe it’s better to be more clear and evident in your writing.

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The trouble here is the definition of "market". Apple's ecosystem (which Apple has an absolute control on) doesn't seem to be very safe from being defined as a sole market since there's no viable substitute to the app store for Apple users. For instance, even if Apple decides to increase the app store fee to 50% so its app's prices as well, still consumers don't have much choice since buying a new phone is typically…

You can’t define Apple’s market as iOS customers unless there are no alternatives to iOS, which there most certainly are.

I already have explained; there's no alternative to iOS for apple mobile devices unless you're willing to pay more than $500 for an equivalent level of android device. If Apple allows Android to be installed to Apple devices, then things can be different though.

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This is very cool in terms of security principles (no email that can be used to track you by default, mandatory 2FA, mandatory SPF for emails).

The mandatory inclusion if you use third party SSO already (smart I think as otherwise FB and Google would probably start paying developers not to include it) aside, this will probably get a lot of uptake for apps that dont use SSO.

Apps that people mainly use on mobile devices and TV's would benefit a lot from this (as these devices arent good for typing in complex passwords). Additionally larger companies would be concerned about letting Google or FB sell their user list to competitors for targeting. Apple already has all this information, so nothing is lost by enabling SSO.

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They're close to parity with a giant exception that it's not available to the overwhelming majority of Facebook users.

Fb and G screwed themselves by: forcing users to submit real cell phone numbers (no forwarding numbers allowed) and real names. I’m laughing all the way to the apple oauth signup. So tired of G and Fb abusing users

Apple now requires 2FA for new accounts created on an iPhone and for 2FA they require a phone number.

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This is Apple sensing weakness and dropping a bomb right on facebook’s doorstep. And they sidestep the anticompetitive angle by arguing that instant anonymous sign on is simply a better UX, which it is. Someone at Apple deserves a raise.

Lol, I doubt it. Apple is years late and sucks at doing the leg work of getting third parties to adopt its suck. Look at Apple Pay which was launched at the perfect time.

Apple Pay, the market leader?

https://www.similartech.com/compare/apple-pay-vs-google-pay

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Totally agree. I set this up for myself to have a anything@mytrowawaydomain.com and it's great to see when folks sell your email :) So far it's only happened once, actually, when Keen.io got bought by a PE firm, I got a bunch of spam, so they clearly sold off my email address. It's a system that would be hard to operate as a "normal" person, so this is a great step.

As a former (pre-sale) Keen employee, this makes me sad. I'm very sorry.

No worries. I am at least glad the product is still alive. Despite being a competitor, there is a lot to admire about the offering. I am really bummed it didn't come out ahead of other competitors :)
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