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Re: Apple Sign In

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Using 'Sign in with X' with service Y means you're giving X, or anyone forcing X to abuse their position, full access to your account on Y.

Additionally, anything sent to you@privaterelay.appleid.com flows through an Apple server.

You can trust Apple with this now, but it's not so easy to revoke that trust later. Still, it's useful for throwaway signups and garbage I suppose.

Re: Apple Sign In

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On the downside if I use Apple Sign In on apps I probably won't be able to sign in to that application on my Android devices.

They do have an sdk for web, will probably work on any platform with a web browser.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Feature parity for most people, not userbase parity.

The ability to run on my phone seems like an important feature.

Are you their customer? Do you buy their products? If not, then no you're not important. Their business model is to serve their paying customers.

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Can’t services just disallow/block this address? Fun thing is, Apple themselves block name+addon@gmail.com addresses when using their dev console. You can bet that some companies will disallow Apple’s signature private passwords similarly if they can, in the name of ‘security’ or what have you. Or am I being too cynical? Feel free to CMV. EDIT: best response addressing this seems to be ‘The addresses are only generat…

Presumably such services won't implement Sign In With Apple in the first place. People will accept it because they want the sheer quantity of users Apple provides. The useful thing about Apple is that they can force people to do things they don't particularly want to do, like accept anonymous e-mail addresses or stop using Flash. (unfortunately this is also the bad thing about Apple)

Or they already rely on FB login and are now _obligated_ by Apple to implement this feature. I work for a company that has allowed people to create accounts with FB login (meaning we don’t have an internal password associated with them). This change would ostensibly require us to also allow Apple Sign In _even if we don’t want to_ just to continue to service existing users.

There really isn’t much choice here for us. Leave Apple / iOS? Abandon FB login and piss off thousands of people? Implement Apple Sign In regardless of its tech stack / requirements?

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Who do you trust more _not_ to do sketchy stuff with your data, Apple or Google? For me it's unequivocally Apple.

Problem is, today I agree, 10 years ago it would've been a tossup, and 5 years from now, who knows? These "trusted central broker" privacy models are nicer than giving your info to dozens of individual actors (when you trust that central broker more than anyone else), but they also become a single point of attack/failure.

That change is likely because Google regressed and Apple progressed along this axis. Now project forward.

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Can’t services just disallow/block this address? Fun thing is, Apple themselves block name+addon@gmail.com addresses when using their dev console. You can bet that some companies will disallow Apple’s signature private passwords similarly if they can, in the name of ‘security’ or what have you. Or am I being too cynical? Feel free to CMV. EDIT: best response addressing this seems to be ‘The addresses are only generat…

Is that block a recent thing? It might be different as for my on GSuite account I can add the name+addon@mydomain.com - it might just be a difference between the "public" Gmail system vs the Gsuite Gmail system. In which case, my question is completely invalid and feel free to ignore ;) Note: This comes from my own developer account having 3 name+addon@ accounts live, and working with things like ApplePay etc for tes…

Developer with a name+addon@gmail.com Apple ID here. No idea what OP is talking about, I was able to generate my Apple ID and sign up for the dev console no problem.

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What a coincidence, Google works for those people, too!

But Google cannot get away with screwing both customers and developers. Apple doesn't seem to provide competition in the tech space that is pro consumer or pro developer. Apple is pushing profit more than anyone else in tech.

> But Google cannot get away with screwing both customers and developers.

But with google we're the product and not the customers. They are a spyware company and don't deserve any trust whatsoever.

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iOS allows you to set your default password manager...

I thought that was just default AutoFill? It allows saving passwords to your password manager too?

It's new functionality I think, or at least I just recently realized I can set LastPass as the default password manager on iOS.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Competition is not anti-competitive. Excluding other third party sign on options would be problematic if Apple were abusing a dominant position among smartphone makers, which is not the case by any objective measure.

Is it problematic if Apple says "you must include us if you include anyone else?" That seems anti-competitive to me.

That’s competing. Fair play unless you’re the dominant player in the relevant market.

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Apple swindles and manipulates the user to buying a new device whenever there is any fault at all because everything is glued and soldered together so fixing anything requires buying half of the device.

I don’t think that is a fair comparison. Aside from hardware va software I personally have never had an issue with apple products last 3 or more years. Get apple care and they just fix or replace it when anything goes wrong. Better experience then my friends seem to have with other manufactures.

I have a collection of broken apple products from other people who were going to throw them out. Usually they have a fairly minor issue but its just about impossible to fix because of the use of insane amounts of glue or one way clips
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