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So where is it used except Android? With any market share that makes it significant beyond android?
That's a weird reply when a market has mostly two players. By definition there won't be any other significant market share.
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Using iMessage requires an Apple ID. The Messages app on iPhones supports both SMS/MMS and iMessage because it’s a phone and needs to support SMS. But without being signed into an Apple ID on the device the Messages app only handles SMS/MMS, i.e., green chat bubbles.
That isn't true. You can use iMessage without an Apple ID on a phone. It uses your phone number. I promise you of this.
Most businesses, consumers, and developers universally continue to ignore the primary reason that iMessage is a closed platform, rather than an app on every platform as iTunes is: Apple is using device serial numbers for anti-spam, supported by a fully-authenticated hardware and software stack that does not allow user modification. This permits Apple to simply “console ban” any Apple device that spams on iMessage. Th…
Ah, perfect tracking. Let's add that to Pluton list of promises.
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US here. On the old end of "millennial", if that matters. More than 95% of my personal communication with other humans I know (remote communication, that is, not in-person, obviously) is in WhatsApp. The rest is phone and SMS and that's all older family. SMS, like email, is mainly for machines to talk to me.
> More than 95% of my personal communication ... is in WhatsApp This is wild to me. I'm squarely in the middle of the millennial generation and I've never used WhatsApp and I've never known anyone that uses it. Nearly all of my personal communication is through Messages on my iPhone/iPad/Mac.
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I'd rather live in a world with spam than a world where corporations get to decide what I run on my devices, and cripple a bunch of critical applications if I decide I want to, y'know, actually do whatever I want with the hardware I own. I'm not unsympathetic to Apple's difficulties and goals here (assuming this spam problem is actually the reason, though I'm skeptical that there aren't also self-serving reasons that…
> I'd rather live in a world with spam than a world where corporations get to decide what I run on my devices, and cripple a bunch of critical applications if I decide I want to, y'know, actually do whatever I want with the hardware I own. Egads, no. The abuse heaped on me by Apple pales in comparison to the spam phone calls and emails I get. If I start getting spam via iMessage, I'll be an extremely unhappy camper.…
What do people need ? Apple coming and killing their cat ?
RCS is dead. The Cross Carrier Messaging Initiative (CCMI) has given up. Google is the one still pushing for it. iMessage is simply a big Apple moat. Why would Apple give it up to enhance Google's business position? Google wants us to pick theirs over Apple's. Also note that to my knowledge, RCS is not available in all countries. The other funny thing is that Google complains about SMS being insecure -- all while RCS…
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That sounds horrible to be so locked-in.
I'm not sure what "locked-in" means here. If something happens to WhatsApp (becomes paid-only, abandoned), you can use Telegram, Viber etc. Maybe the only problem is that you can lose chat history when switching, and that you must make sure all your friends/family migrate to the same service...
It's time to switch to Signal. (Telegram and most of the others are not end to end encrypted.)
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IIRC with RCS, carriers don't run the infrastructure, Google does.
Telstra kicked off RCS in Australia, but only on their network, then Google did one for everyone else, but it doesn't work with Telstra AFACT. Vodafone has this business RCS page: https://www.vodafone.com/business/carrier-services/messaging... and they "launched" in 2018, but from what I can tell still no-one is using it. There's a lot of confusion around it.
> There's a lot of confusion around it.
The story of every feature introduced by telcos in the last 100 years that goes beyond voice calls or text messages.
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They should implement the version (and extensions) that gives them interoperability with the most users. Which, yes, would probably be whatever Google implemented, including the E2EE extensions. This... isn't really hard?
Why should Apple (or anyone) be on the hook for implementing proprietary extensions? Once you peel back the marketing schtick this is just demanding that Google be able to determine which proprietary services are included on an Apple product. That's ridiculous on its face. If the issue is interoperability with Android users, fine. Google had successful messaging apps on iOS (I used a few) and they destroyed them thro…