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Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”

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Why would Apple fix something that do not affect Apple users ?

Per the article, they do affect iPhone users.

Per experience, they do not. At least, they do not affect me in the slightest. Never had any of these alleged problems.

Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”

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I would agree more if the RCS standard wasn’t also hot garbage… I would encourage anyone who is curious to read more about it. It’s taken so long to gain traction that it has also become somewhat legacy. Also, it still requires a carrier sponsored phone plan? How is this “modern” in comparison to say every other carrier agnostic messaging app in existence? Also this: https://twitter.com/RonAmadeo/status/1480679515298…

Very interesting. I wonder what protocol and format the EU commission will point to in enforcing the Digital Markets Act

Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”

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I would agree more if the RCS standard wasn’t also hot garbage… I would encourage anyone who is curious to read more about it. It’s taken so long to gain traction that it has also become somewhat legacy. Also, it still requires a carrier sponsored phone plan? How is this “modern” in comparison to say every other carrier agnostic messaging app in existence? Also this: https://twitter.com/RonAmadeo/status/1480679515298…

Agree. It sounds similar to the argument for USB-C charging, also a hot mess of a standard. But RCS is definitely more offensive.

Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”

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Who uses sms anymore these days? I tried to go back to a non-smart phone, but it was impossible due to not having whatsapp. That might be a 'local' thing though, not sure. Anyway, they should just release imessage for android; that would piss off meta too, which is a win in my book ;)

Everyone in the US (if there is at least one android user in the chat)

US here. On the old end of "millennial", if that matters.

More than 95% of my personal communication with other humans I know (remote communication, that is, not in-person, obviously) is in WhatsApp. The rest is phone and SMS and that's all older family.

SMS, like email, is mainly for machines to talk to me.

Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”

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Another fun one to point out: Google doesn't just want expanded RCS support because they have a monopoly on all the non-iMessage client devices, but they also run one of the largest providers of the data services for carriers to support RCS as well: https://jibe.google.com/jibe-platform/

Yet another angle on the Google vertical monopoly, and another reason Apple should stay very far away from RCS to protect user privacy.

Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”

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I would agree more if the RCS standard wasn’t also hot garbage… I would encourage anyone who is curious to read more about it. It’s taken so long to gain traction that it has also become somewhat legacy. Also, it still requires a carrier sponsored phone plan? How is this “modern” in comparison to say every other carrier agnostic messaging app in existence? Also this: https://twitter.com/RonAmadeo/status/1480679515298…

It really is god-awful. RCS is a technology that benefits mobile operators, not users. Also, Google really aren't in a position to lecture anyone on this topic, given their N+1 approach to messaging services.

Its definitely a compromise, but Google is ultimately at the mercy of the carriers. We can sit back behind our keyboards and criticize but it is a way to get something going. I don't think carriers have any incentive to improve this area, and probably nothing would happen
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