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Ingenious! What if a security incident happens just in Europe but not elsewhere? Then it becomes instantly clear that Apple’s argument against sideloading was not a strawman.
hasn't happened on android with sideloaded apps. Stop fearmongering.
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I don't think those alternatives are the right ones. You can sell your iphone without any issue, there are plenty of stores around me offering to buy used models to resell. I'm actually contemplating buying a used model. Can't do that with steam games. I'm also pretty confident that if apple and their services disappeared tomorrow, my iphone would keep on working just like it does today. Sure, no more updates, no mor…
How would one install or update an app if apple and services disappear?
The fact that you can't even imagine how that might work points to the real problem.
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> preventing people from doing something "for their own good" is never the right solution. https://www.osha.gov/etools/machine-guarding/presses/two-han... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockout%E2%80%93tagout > educate people on proper online safety measures so that they don't fall victim to fraudulent attempts. This is so inefficient and prone to failure. You think you're an expert, but my mom is not an expert. I don…
> https://www.osha.gov/etools/machine-guarding/presses/two-han ... > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockout%E2%80%93tagout Not sure what those links are supposed to show, but having safeguards and completely disallowing something is a different matter. If all, you're just proving parent's point.
Lockout/tagout is a technical prevention which restricts other people from messing with a system that could endanger you. Education was not enough.
A monopoly app store is a technical prevention that restricts someone from running un-vetted software that could potentially steal your life savings or compromise your entire digital life. Do you think education is enough?
I am not saying that that is true or correct, but I do think that's an argument that someone who disagrees would have to take in good faith and respond to satisfactorily.
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As far as I'm concerned if you 'bought' something, it should be yours to do as you please, including reselling and destroying it. If you didn't buy something, but rented it - for example a game on Steam or Epic Games store - then it should damned say so. It's a straight up lie to say you purchased something if you didn't.
"If you didn't buy something, but rented it - for example a game on Steam or Epic Games store" I don't know about the other one, but in the Steam store I see "Buy" buttons, not "Rent". "Buy " in the store page, then when you go a "Shopping Cart", where you can "Purchase" the game. To me (and to the average people, I guess) it doesn't sound as a rental service at all. I'm sure that their ToS says otherwise, but I wond…
Apple being motivated by improving security are BS, and it pains me te see people in this forum falling for it or reapeating this. There is a great tool to increase security: the browser and its sandbox. You don't need to install anything fishy on your phone, and the sandbox rights coukd be sufficient for many apps. But as an example, Apple denies the full screen feature for websites and even PWA... only installed on…
I sometimes feel that some HN folks need to consider a job inside EU committees. It's probably boring work, but even if you spend 10% of your time in meetings and the remainder on a secret side project, you will be doing society a great service.
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It's a poor justification. You can cleanly implement a signing system for trusted developers (they've done it before), and it's obviously possible to distribute iPhone package files. All the pieces are in place, if it weren't for their $80 billion annual hayday then they wouldn't be dying on this hill in particular. Maybe part of it is this security alignment issue, but upon scrutiny it's clearly a small and solvable…
It sounds more like you’re upset about apples revshare model on their channel; Why do you care if all your competitors also have to pay it? I don’t think the world got better because we got more channels on Tv, and I even think some of them might be dangerous and harmful to life…
There's a Ukrainian saying
> Хрін з ним, що своя хата згоріла, головне у сусіда корова здохла
Which literally translates to "Who cares if house is burnt down, the most important is that neighbors' cow is dead" - that's you. Ever thought that maybe you and/or your comptetitor shouldn't have to pay in the first place or that shares are unfair?
They should just allow installing other operating systems instead. If you want out of their platform, install Linux OS on your phone and have whatever you want there. Wouldn't that make everybody happy - Apple, EU and customers?
The ability to install your own OS would be a nice end goal, but at this pace it'll take at least another 10 years of government regulation before Apple would even consider allowing that.
I think the central question here is: .) whether you buy a phone as a piece of hardware and then own that hardware - which gives you certain rights regarding the usage of that owned hardware or .) whether you are just paying some sort of admission fee to a tightly controlled service, and are basically "lent" a piece of hardware that you have no ownership rights over. All the other stuff about walled gardens, monopoli…
As far as I'm concerned if you 'bought' something, it should be yours to do as you please, including reselling and destroying it. If you didn't buy something, but rented it - for example a game on Steam or Epic Games store - then it should damned say so. It's a straight up lie to say you purchased something if you didn't.
They should just allow installing other operating systems instead. If you want out of their platform, install Linux OS on your phone and have whatever you want there. Wouldn't that make everybody happy - Apple, EU and customers?