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Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Can we drop the whole "need to eat" language when talking about software development? We're talking about people with abundant opportunity to make tons of money. Tugging on the heartstrings with "they need to eat" or "feed their families" is preposterously over the top rhetoric.

It is not the case that all developers have easy access to abundant income. It is at least as wrong to assume that is true as to assume that they are living hand to mouth.

For those developers, it makes even less sense to pony up for a Macbook and an Apple Developer license and spend all their time on an app that's going into someone else's environment - especially someone who has a history of treating developers on their platform as second-class citizens.

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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From what I understand, Apple doesn't force anyone. It's up to them to use it or not. They can always NOT deliver apps for iOS if they think 30% is too much.

Yes they do. This is why Spotify is more expensive if you subscribe through the app -- because they cannot take payment details through the app for digital goods/services. So any music streaming service that wants to try to compete with Apple music has to pay a tithe to Apple of 30% or miss out on half of America (or make customers jump through hoops). The 'you dont have to use it' comment is moot -- iOS accounts for…

Just a nitpick but "tithe", by definition, is 10%.

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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You have other means to distribute your app w/Android, including self-distribution. It's an uphill climb to be sure, but there are apps who do that. Correct me if I'm wrong, but iOS doesn't offer that opportunity as sideloading and non-Apple markets are not possible unless you jailbreak your device

To clarify, I didn't mean pulling the app, or anything app-related at all. I just meant Amazon and Google both can have such Kafka-esque "you're not allowed to appeal" responses to issues. I've personally experienced it with Amazon, and have read about it with Google.

I don't know how much I should believe you since a comment above you said "(I've had to deal with such from both of them before.)" and now you say you have read about it with Google.

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Not allowing third party stores in the Store is a security feature because they can install APKs that have not passed through Google's security scanner. Google does not prohibit you from installing third party stores. Also, how are they using their dominance for search and browsers to do something? I can install Firefox on Android, I cannot install Firefox on iOS. I can do "Hey, Cortana" if I install Cortana on my An…

> I cannot install Firefox on iOS. Yes you can. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/ios

It does not use Gecko, it uses the Safari engine with all of the optimizations and enhancements disabled.

By Apple rules, any web view inside of an app must use the Safari engine this way.

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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I wonder if Apple knows how many developers use Dash. They probably don't realize what a high-profile faux pas they're making.

More likely they simply don't care. Developers are a tiny fraction of their overall userbase, and there are plenty of devs who will put up with any kind of abuse just to have a shot at App Store riches.

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Someone probably thinks it's a manual for best practices.

The Metamorphosis: from best practices to disaster overnight https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Metamorphosis

I would imagine the Trial is what the op was thinking of

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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post #326

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To clarify, I didn't mean pulling the app, or anything app-related at all. I just meant Amazon and Google both can have such Kafka-esque "you're not allowed to appeal" responses to issues. I've personally experienced it with Amazon, and have read about it with Google.

I don't know how much I should believe you since a comment above you said "(I've had to deal with such from both of them before.)" and now you say you have read about it with Google.

Ha. Sorry, it was a long day at work today... Forgot about the Apps For Business (or whatever they've changed the name to) issues I had back in the day when I had to set it up for the store I work at. Not nearly as mind-bogglingly frustrating an experience as my most recent Amazon issue, which I detailed in another comment of mine in this thread somewhere.

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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The thing the pisses me of about these cases is this: "I called them again and they said they can’t provide more information." They terminate your account and then they even refuse to tell you why. A basic human thing, a chance to fix the issue, but no. Go f* yourself from Apple and that's it.

Could it be because of legal reasons? maybe you have a lower chance of suing them when they don't provide you with any details? (either way, it's wrong but I'm just trying to find a possible reason why they do this)

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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The OS X platform already has a stupid easy download-and-install process with their .app folders. It's a shame that some users prefer to instead use an alternative distribution method controlled by a centralized party rather than buying software directly from the developer.

No standard update mechanism, no standard uninstall mechanism, and going from "I have this .dmg/.zip file in my downloads folder" to "I'm running this app from my Applications folder and don't have any leftovers in my downloads folder" is several non-obvious steps. .app bundles are great, just not a complete solution.

Dash being for developers https://caskroom.github.io/ I barely use the AppStore, only for OSX updates
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