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Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox

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rsj_hn wrote: post #226
stephenr wrote: post #219

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You know that “math” is just the abbreviated form of “mathematics” right?

"mathematics" may end in "s", but that doesn't make it plural. We say "Mathematics is a science" not "Mathematics are sciences" (replace with "art/arts" if you don't belive it's a science). We also say "mathematics is a growing field", not "mathematics are growing fields". Because it's singular, the fact that it ends in "s" doesn't naturally require shortened forms of it to carry the last letter at the end. I get tha…

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Post by 1_player »

wincy wrote: post #195
l33t2328 wrote: post #145

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Why do you say they’re degrading the experience?

The other day I had a windows upgrade and suddenly had weather on my desktop. I thought it was some malware I’d downloaded. Nope, new windows feature with a confusing way to disable it so I had to Google it. My next laptop will definitely be a MacBook.

Good luck with that. I hated Windows, then Linux, got a Mac, hated that as well, now I'm back and I hate all major operating systems. I'm back on Windows, at least I can run any application I want without Microsoft's approval.

Desktop computing is all going to shit really quickly, and we're powerless to stop it. Linux is our only chance but it's still a rag tag of unpaid volunteers with no real goal or vision, except for its kernel.

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Post by Siira »

nobodyknowsyoda wrote: post #43
Rubayo wrote: post #34

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Yet given all this, for a substantial cohort of customers, the Apple brand is still bought as a badge of "coolness".

Slightly off topic, but I do love the translucent terminal on the Mac. It is very cool

It's a performance hog that provides little value.

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Post by CaptainZapp »

Const-me wrote: post #143
heavyset_go wrote: post #50

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> Mac software and app industry has died. Even after notarising apps they show malicious popup to users. I maintain a handful of open source apps for macOS, and have for years. If I don't pay the $100 Apple tax, macOS will treat those apps as if they're radioactive, and it will trick users into believing the apps are either broken or malicious. In order to run them, users must know how to change arcane settings and d…

Windows is getting close to macOS in that regard. Specifically, both browser and OS are arbitrarily marking installers as malware, scaring users. Even digital signatures don't help. The only reliable workaround is publishing through Windows store.

Can you provide an example?

I never had an issue with installing (mostly signed) Windows software.

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Post by ruste »

rgrieselhuber wrote: post #275
etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #80

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You can also "noun" verbs. One I hear in SV is "an ask". I find myself a bit peeved by it but I don't know why.

One of the ones I hate the most is "let's find a solve" when they mean to say "let's find a solution."

I think it's worse when they flip it around and inappropriately use a noun as a verb: "Let's solution this."

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Post by riekus »

wussboy wrote: post #312
nomoreplease wrote: post #153

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For nearly a decade, they preferred to open addresses with Apple Maps instead of my preference of Google Maps. And they gave me no option to use Google Maps as the default. Apple defaulted to their own apps and I think they still do (I’m not sure if this changed)

The worst offender for this is opening Bing when I mistype something in the Windows Start menu. I can't help but think this accounts for a large percentage of claimed traffic for Edge and Bing. It certainly is the only time I use them (and by use I mean click the exit button)

it is really annoying and pisses me off every time it happens, it is a dark pattern for sure.

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Post by GeekyBear »

bostonsre wrote: post #314
GeekyBear wrote: post #304

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They are steering users to install a system utility that integrates with Dropbox (and every other major cloud service). Apple does not make any profit off of that system utility. Google, on the other hand, makes the vast majority of their profit from selling ads that do indeed steer users away from the product they searched for.

I'm making an assumption here since it's been a while since I've looked at SEO, but I'd assume that page rank in this case matters. Any friction at all leads to fewer conversions, which means fewer sales for Dropbox. If a less knowledgeable user downloads the Apple app instead of Dropbox in this case, there will be some portion that don't end up installing Dropbox and they may instead find their way to icloud when re…

Files is the iOS equivalent of Windows Explorer in Windows. They both allow you to view and transfer files within the filesystem.

Dropbox provides it's functionality by integrating into Files on iOS and Windows Explorer in Windows.

Installing Files does absolutely nothing to disadvantage a Dropbox install, so your entire premise is false.

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Post by Saris »

Razengan wrote: post #251
heavyset_go wrote: post #50

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> Mac software and app industry has died. Even after notarising apps they show malicious popup to users. I maintain a handful of open source apps for macOS, and have for years. If I don't pay the $100 Apple tax, macOS will treat those apps as if they're radioactive, and it will trick users into believing the apps are either broken or malicious. In order to run them, users must know how to change arcane settings and d…

> If I don't pay the $100 Apple tax Please. If you can’t make enough in an entire damn year to cover that $100, you need to look at what you’re doing. Hell I’ve seen obscure open source projects get more than $100 in donations every single month. If people see any value in your work, then that $100 is not a barrier at all.

What about OSS devs who don't make money from their apps?

There are not very many OSS apps on the iOS app store, probably caused by the difficulty in getting an app published.

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Post by kbelder »

abhorrence wrote: post #33
gruez wrote: post #13

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>You mean the grocery stores that have many competitors who also sell groceries? google? >How would you extend that analogy to the iOS App Store, which has no competitors whatsoever who sell iOS apps? By that logic costco has no competitors whatsoever that sell kirkland signature products.

I think if we took the reverse analogy, this would be like a situation where depending on the model of car you owned you could only shop at a specific grocery store. Bought a Honda? Only Kroger for you. Ford? You get Albertsons. There's a sizable purchase with phones and computers that creates a cost to switching stores. There's no cost to me to go to Kroger one week and Albertsons the next. Something like Amazon is…

Some manufacturer will try to do that once self-driving cars become a reality.

"I can take you to Wal-Mart... that's a sponsored destination. But Target will require a $2.00 fee, or you'll have to self-drive. Note: Your insurance rate will also increase."

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Post by wincy »

mlazos wrote: post #305
wincy wrote: post #195

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The other day I had a windows upgrade and suddenly had weather on my desktop. I thought it was some malware I’d downloaded. Nope, new windows feature with a confusing way to disable it so I had to Google it. My next laptop will definitely be a MacBook.

To each their own, but I find it hilarious that the weather widget is the straw that broke the camel’s back for you not wanting Windows anymore. There are so many better reasons to move away from Windows.

Well me selling off my $1200 video card (my midlife crisis gamer “Ferrari”) and quitting video canes completely has a lot to do with it too. I just don’t have a compelling reason to stay. My work laptops have always been MacBook Pros, they’re nice, and funnily enough my favorite feature is things like iTerm that just doesn’t something as good on Linux.
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