also, resiliency against adverse action in the Senate. they now have 4 senators who are unlikely to vote on anything damaging to Intel
This is an interesting point I never thought of before. Now I wonder if the tech giants would have faired better politically if they weren't all co-located in one of the most politically polarizing areas of the country.
It is a part of the reason why all the big government contractors are spread out all over the place. Even around a single metro area they'll have different offices in different congressional districts.
This same street has a Facebook data center, an AWS data center, and a Google data center (within a couple of miles). There is a biotech research campus, Bath & Bodyworks main research lab, and the main operations center for AEP (a midwest electric company). If you travel about 2-3 miles orthogonal to that street we have a big data center for Nationwide Insurance, a campus for Discover (credit cards), and a State Far…
That's why I come to HN, would have been oblivious to the fact otherwise
Me too, but I'm reasonably sure this is information I will never use.
This is actually a brilliant location for them. One of those places that has much more going for it than people not from the region would realize. International airport, large rail depot, extremely low cost of living and a city/region that has more good restaurants and activities than might be expected. Ohio State University is in the city and is a huge school that is rapidly growing in academic standing. Road transi…
> extremely low cost of living and a city/region that has more good restaurants and activities than might be expected That's what people said about Salt Lake City and Boise... until about 5 years ago. Cost of living has skyrocketed since 2017, housing alone has doubled in price. It doesn't take long for a low cost of living region to become high cost of living.
Cost of living in Columbus is low if you are looking at it with Coastal city eyes. That being said, its still the most expensive city in Ohio. Houses in the hot neighborhoods people write articles about were hitting 700k 6 years ago. Rents in new apartments are like $1300 for a 1 bedroom.
> why not all AZ? Game theory between US states playing to get the most gov’t assistance? Finite pool of talent? Our plants are in rural areas and everyone is struggling to hire, from auto to bakeries.
The Great Lakes region has a surprising concentration of advanced manufacturing skillsets. With large manufacturing facilities with extremely stringent quality standards like a bleeding edge chip fab there's going to be a enormous need for people with traditional manufacturing-specific support skillsets that are simply not available in large quantities anywhere else in the US. If the current administration's support…
I was surprised to learn Minnesota has a fab that's critical to the US govt! They are one of the only secure trusted chip makers.
Growing up there I had no idea. My dad loved to talk up MMM, Honeywell, Monsanto and a bunch of other legacy companies in MN that still play huge roles that I have overlooked.
Just one article at top of search I found even talks about the public-private partnerships (tax & other incentives)
This mandatory comment is your threadly reminder that node names are entirely unrelated to any physical dimensions, as has been the case for many years now. You should not interpret node names as meaning anything more than a point on the semiconductor roadmap. Nodes that share the same names across foundries will not have the same performance characteristics, but are usually roughly comparable (especially since Intel…
Somewhat related- this reminds me of this recent fact that I learned [1] that 1" camera sensors are not 1" in any dimension whatsoever. That number is rooted in historical diameter of a tube that video camera "sensors" were housed in. That tube was 1" in diameter. [1] https://youtu.be/-njHjebtIg4?t=495
CRT monitors and TVs were the same: the advertised size was the size of the picture tube, not of the visible area.
Depending on where they're moving from, they might take a pay cut.. Ohio is very cheap to live in. New Albany is not particularly exciting, but nearby Columbus is a nice vibrant city, not the end of the earth. OSU is a definitely good asset for Intel, they put out 2k engineering degrees a year. I hope this spurs a nice tech ecosystem for Ohio--it's been dominated by insurance and medicine for a long time.
given that over the last 2 years we've all been trained to live like hermits I wonder who is going to be bothered about lack of city amenities? You can still jog around the block and walk your dog but large public gatherings (big city specialty) isn't much of a draw any more.
Nitpick: Small and medium, not just large public gatherings, and a larger variety of them, are also a big city draw. But one of the biggest big city draws is the large variety of employment -- not just for you, but your kids. You don't know what career they'll go into and they're more likely to be able to do it while staying near the metro area they grew up in if it's a large one with a good large varied job market, as opposed to having to choose between career and staying near family. Obviously remote/hybrid work makes that a little easier, but a lot of stuff still has to be done on site, it's still a competitive advantage to be able to choose between local AND remote jobs as opposed to ONLY remote jobs because your hometown is so small, and hybrid doesn't really make metro areas irrelevant, it merely expands their size, much as highways and commuter trains once did 50 and 100 or so years ago.
Semantically, damning water in the Great Lakes Watershed (how Columbus get's its water) is not THAT different from letting that water flow into Lake Erie and then piping it back. Point being, Ohio has very few long-term drought concerns.
> Semantically, damning water in the Great Lakes Watershed (how Columbus get's its water) Wrong. Columbus gets most of its water from the Scioto River, part of the Ohio/Mississippi River watershed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scioto_River You might be thinking about Cleveland instead, but I don't think anyone dares drink from the Cuyahoga River, since its had a history of catching fire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wik…
Akron’s reservoir is on the Cuyahoga River just North of Kent. Though this is far upstream from “catching fire” location.
This is actually a brilliant location for them. One of those places that has much more going for it than people not from the region would realize. International airport, large rail depot, extremely low cost of living and a city/region that has more good restaurants and activities than might be expected. Ohio State University is in the city and is a huge school that is rapidly growing in academic standing. Road transi…
Not to mention low probability of natural disasters: Earthquakes, tornados, wild fire, hurricanes, etc.
You just get different natural disasters. Flooding that could damage your basement and foundation and prevent you from accessing certain roads is a regular occurrence, some people are always pumping out their basements every time it rains. A bad roof you could get away with in California where it rains 5 x a year could quickly spiral into more expensive rot and repairs in places that see heavy rains. Storms can still fall trees onto your house or car. Snowstorms often don't stop your employer from demanding your presence in the office or schools from closing because we are supposedly hardy in the midwest, and increasingly as the weather gets milder, ice storms that manifest as rain during the day but dangerous ice as soon as the sun sets and temperatures fall, coating your car in an inch thick layer of ice when you leave for work in the morning. And plus when the west burns up in flames, the smoke plume wafts east and settles down on the midwest, giving you the bad air anyhow. Speaking of air quality, if you have any allergies, the midwest is also not for you. You get slammed from pollen both from a variety of seasonal weeds, as well as from the intensive agriculture performed in the region.
This is actually a brilliant location for them. One of those places that has much more going for it than people not from the region would realize. International airport, large rail depot, extremely low cost of living and a city/region that has more good restaurants and activities than might be expected. Ohio State University is in the city and is a huge school that is rapidly growing in academic standing. Road transi…
Does it have a sufficiently educated workforce, or can it convince enough of one to move there, though?