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Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by brewdad »

sanp wrote: post #188
qsmi wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Increasing supply chain resiliency by having multiple, geographically separated, sites this more of a thing now. https://hbr.org/2020/09/global-supply-chains-in-a-post-pande... "The obvious way to address heavy dependence on one medium-risk or high-risk source (a single factory, supplier, or region) is to add more sources in locations not vulnerable to the same risks."

also, resiliency against adverse action in the Senate. they now have 4 senators who are unlikely to vote on anything damaging to Intel

6. Intel is the largest private employer in Oregon as well.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by MisterPea »

rotten wrote: post #187

This same street has a Facebook data center, an AWS data center, and a Google data center (within a couple of miles). There is a biotech research campus, Bath & Bodyworks main research lab, and the main operations center for AEP (a midwest electric company). If you travel about 2-3 miles orthogonal to that street we have a big data center for Nationwide Insurance, a campus for Discover (credit cards), and a State Far…

Exactly what I was going to say. "Friends don't let friends use us-east-1" - us-east-2 will be a huge spot for computing in the coming decade.

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Post by hardolaf »

hnthrowaway0315 wrote: post #208
kragen wrote: post #172

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Moving to Ohio was one of the worst decisions I made in my life. Dayton is proud of its history of innovation but most of the innovators left for California 50 years ago where innovation was allowed. What's left is the lumbering bureaucracies and sprawling empires that grew from the innovators' products: NCR, the GM plant, Otis.

Aside from Cal, which other State(s) do you consider to be at least growing a culture of innovation? Just curious because might move to US from Canada in the future.

Chicago, IL is a hotbed. Boston, MA also is doing great these days. Texas and Ohio seem to be in a race to the bottom in terms of the types of work they're trying to attract.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by ksec »

ksec wrote: post #15

Intel said the same thing for Arizona as well. Initial $20B investment which could expand to $100B. So they are building it in two places. I wonder why they dont keep it all in Arizona? ( May be Tax Break, but I have no idea how Tax Break works in US ) And if you include their (expected) expansion in EUR, Intel is layering the foundation for Foundry Services. Compared to its half assed Custom Foundry in 2012/2013 wit…

Here is a much better article from Anandtech

https://www.anandtech.com/show/17221/intel-announces-ohio-fa...

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Post by kragen »

justin66 wrote: post #198
kragen wrote: post #179

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CMU, CWRU, UMich, UIUC, and Indiana U are wonderful schools, but none of them are in Ohio [correction: I'm an idiot, CWRU is]. OSU doesn't belong in that list.

I can assure you that CWRU is still in Cleveland, Ohio.

Ugh, how embarrassing. Of course it is. And it's still a great school. Unlike U of Indiana, I haven't been to CWRU. Thank you for the correction.

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Post by daemoens »

MrDunham wrote: post #110
m3kw9 wrote: post #75

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Probably trucking it for 1 day isn't a big deal

Having moved to Columbus a couple years ago everyone loved to say that over 60% of the US population is within a one day drive of Columbus. For the Bay Area readers the distance from Cleveland to Columbus is roughly the same as San Francisco to Sacramento

Much less congestion as well. I drive between them weekly and rarely see traffic anywhere close to California. It's a pretty comfortable 2 hour drive.

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Post by hardolaf »

reaperducer wrote: post #146
MathCodeLove wrote: post #130

I've actually been considering a move to Ohio this June. Any suggestions for whetr in Ohio I should look? My main consideration is low CoL as I work remotely but I'd like there to be stuff to do within a reasonable driving distance.

When people ask me about Ohio, I always whole-hartedly recommend Cincinnati. But then you added "stuff to do within a reasonable driving distance," and I think that tips the scales in favor of Cleveland. And if you want to leave the car at home, you can take Amtrak from Cleveland to New York, Chicago, Toronto, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and D.C. I still love Cincinnati, but until international flying gets back in order…

I mean, you can take the Amtrak from Cleveland to Chicago... but it leaves at like 3:30 AM which is why I never take Amtrak to Cleveland to visit my family from Chicago.

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Post by throwawayboise »

wfleming wrote: post #169
rurp wrote: post #161

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I'm not sure what #1 means. Can you expand on it? I don't recall ever putting a car through something like that.

Some states do an annual safety inspection of vehicles - it's usually more or less "do your turn signals, brakes, and head lights work". Nowadays some states also need to do an emissions check. Some states require it every other year, some states I guess don't really require it at all?

IDK how many states don't require it, but Indiana, just to the west of Ohio, does not require safety inspections for personal vehicles. A few counties near Chicago do emissions testing I think.

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Post by chasd00 »

rotten wrote: post #187

This same street has a Facebook data center, an AWS data center, and a Google data center (within a couple of miles). There is a biotech research campus, Bath & Bodyworks main research lab, and the main operations center for AEP (a midwest electric company). If you travel about 2-3 miles orthogonal to that street we have a big data center for Nationwide Insurance, a campus for Discover (credit cards), and a State Far…

> This same street has a Facebook data center, an AWS data center, and a Google data center (within a couple of miles). There is a biotech research campus, *Bath & Bodyworks main research lab*, and the main operations center for AEP (a midwest electric company).

i bet it would be fun to chat and talk shop with engineers at the bath and body works lab during a lunch.

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Post by TheCondor »

N1H1L wrote: post #138
gaoshan wrote: post #122

This is actually a brilliant location for them. One of those places that has much more going for it than people not from the region would realize. International airport, large rail depot, extremely low cost of living and a city/region that has more good restaurants and activities than might be expected. Ohio State University is in the city and is a huge school that is rapidly growing in academic standing. Road transi…

The midwest has some of the greatest engineering schools in the nation. I have been beating this drum hoarse for a few years now - but it's true. Specifically, members of the Big 10 conference are probably the best engineering schools conference in the world. Within 300 miles from Columbus (where you have Ohio State - Big10), you have Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, UIUC, Indiana, Purdue from the Big 10 along w…

With a potential $100b investment, it's not about what they have now, it's about what will be in 20 years.

Ohio is a great place for this kind of corporate gentrification. As a CMU grad, I know there was a collective desire to get students to stick around, but there was better lifestyle, more money, etc.. leaving after school and a fairly large number of us weren't from the area to begin with. Something like this can be a game changer for the region, plus, there will be dozens of additional companies that set up camp and start up there for support.

If it really works and the region supports it and leans in, all of the schools anywhere near by will step up their engineering programs.

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