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Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant
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Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant
#122This is actually a brilliant location for them. One of those places that has much more going for it than people not from the region would realize.
International airport, large rail depot, extremely low cost of living and a city/region that has more good restaurants and activities than might be expected. Ohio State University is in the city and is a huge school that is rapidly growing in academic standing. Road transit in the area is also very good allowing access to any part of the city from any other part in rapid fashion. Good schools, relatively low crime, etc. Probably the only drawback, from a lifestyle point of view, would be the winter and that's not even that bad, compared to other winter regions.
Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant
#123Good luck to them! Always nice to get as much semiconducter talent in-country as possible, fabs are a pretty crucial supply line after all. I'd imagine most people would want a pretty significant pay raise to move to somewhere like Ohio, but they are nearby Ohio State University, so maybe they'll get local talent.
Any salary in semi space in US is better than $34k-$40k per year for a physics/engineering PhD level worker of moderate experience in Taiwan. The bigger question is why none of these $34k a year PhDs did move to USA before. I bet, even a floor sweeper at an Intel fab gets more.
Sure USA workers are probably better off but in USA there would be 6k in deduction for Kaiser Healthcare family plan plus up to 3k out of pocket; then there are the additional dental costs; employee likely must own a car (no Taipei transport); deal with potentially higher income, sales, and property tax; much higher child-care cost; schools for children in many areas may be of lower quality or more expensive; the rate of gun crime, gun suicide, and drug use is higher; etc etc
Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant
#124Does anyone know why Intel would want to build a "mega-site" in the city of Columbus Ohio? Why not choose Cleveland Ohio where one has port access with an existing route to Europe? Fabs are international affairs, no matter where they're rooted, because just to keep the place running one needs a constant stream of parts from everywhere. It seems like being in a sea/rail/truck hub would be a logistics advantage. [1] ht…
So, I live in Columbus Ohio and I’m friends with two of the top people in our economic development department the broker this deal.
I can’t speak well to why not Cleveland but I can say that the actual city that they chose (New Albany, OH, 25 min to downtown and 15-20 to the airport) was built by Les Wexner, founder of L brands/Victoria’s Secret, is now home to data centers for Facebook, Google, and an AWS data center (there are two more within 30 minutes), and the general metro is one of the fastest growing regions in the US.
There is also a ton of available land on the fringes of the Columbus region and the sheer scope of acreage needed is bonkers.
Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant
#125"Up to $100B". Okay. I planned on spending up to $100B for my wife's Christmas present. I actually ended up spending $75 + tax.
It's 20B with expansion options on 2,000 acres. Leading edge fabs just cost an incredible amount of money, it's basically in chunks of 10B at a time.
Here's the Time article: https://time.com/6140476/intel-building-factory-ohio/
Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant
#126When it comes to proximity research institutions, the choice of location is strange to me. Somewhere in the northern Indiana/Illinois/Michigan (i.e. "Greater Michiana") would have made a lot more sense. That way, you would be close to, UIUC, Northwestern, UChicago, UMichigan, Purdue, Notre Dame, UIndiana, Argonne National Lab, etc.
The Ohio State University is in Columbus and if not the largest university in the world it is in the top 3.
Largest university in the world? Top 3 in the US maybe but the largest universities in the world (I'm not talking about networks) are an order of magnitude bigger.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_universities
Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant
#127Good luck to them! Always nice to get as much semiconducter talent in-country as possible, fabs are a pretty crucial supply line after all. I'd imagine most people would want a pretty significant pay raise to move to somewhere like Ohio, but they are nearby Ohio State University, so maybe they'll get local talent.
I also assumed tOSU and the Columbus area would be a draw. Having a big university in a more urban setting is very nice (posting from the Twin Cities with the University of Minnesota centrally located).
I bet some OSU grad students will get some nice stipends out of this, too. Win/win.
Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
1 Å = 0.1 nm, which is roughly the diameter of a hydrogen atom.
This mandatory comment is your threadly reminder that node names are entirely unrelated to any physical dimensions, as has been the case for many years now. You should not interpret node names as meaning anything more than a point on the semiconductor roadmap. Nodes that share the same names across foundries will not have the same performance characteristics, but are usually roughly comparable (especially since Intel…
Definitely not entirely unrelated.
Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant
#129This is actually a brilliant location for them. One of those places that has much more going for it than people not from the region would realize. International airport, large rail depot, extremely low cost of living and a city/region that has more good restaurants and activities than might be expected. Ohio State University is in the city and is a huge school that is rapidly growing in academic standing. Road transi…
Not to mention low probability of natural disasters: Earthquakes, tornados, wild fire, hurricanes, etc.
Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant
#130I've actually been considering a move to Ohio this June. Any suggestions for whetr in Ohio I should look? My main consideration is low CoL as I work remotely but I'd like there to be stuff to do within a reasonable driving distance.