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Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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For a single person yes but if you have family Ohio is a nice place to live. That's why Dave Chappelle's decided to live out there.

Dave Chappelle lives on a 60 acre farm... that's a nice place to live in any state

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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I've actually been considering a move to Ohio this June. Any suggestions for whetr in Ohio I should look? My main consideration is low CoL as I work remotely but I'd like there to be stuff to do within a reasonable driving distance.

Moving to Ohio was one of the worst decisions I made in my life. Dayton is proud of its history of innovation but most of the innovators left for California 50 years ago where innovation was allowed. What's left is the lumbering bureaucracies and sprawling empires that grew from the innovators' products: NCR, the GM plant, Otis.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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The midwest has some of the greatest engineering schools in the nation. I have been beating this drum hoarse for a few years now - but it's true. Specifically, members of the Big 10 conference are probably the best engineering schools conference in the world. Within 300 miles from Columbus (where you have Ohio State - Big10), you have Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, UIUC, Indiana, Purdue from the Big 10 along w…

I'm sure there's more great ones in California but I can count 14 off the top of my head; I think all of them are nearly within 300 miles of LA too. 1. Caltech 2. Stanford 3. Cal 4. UCLA 5. Harvey Mudd 6. USC 7. UCSD 8. UCD 9. UCSB 10. CPSLO 11. UCI 12. CPP 13. UCSC 14. UCR

I mean, if you are going to count campuses, Penn State has like 20+ alone.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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How much are Intel process engineers paid to withstand that?

Very well for Oregon. But it's a little more nuanced than pay for two reasons. 1) Intel is a little like proto-Amazon. There is a preference for hiring people directly out of grad school and inducting them into the cult while they are still naive, so that's just what they come to expect for work-life balance. 2) The whole semiconductor industry is like this, and particularly so for production fabs. If you have domain…

> There is a preference for hiring people directly out of grad school and inducting them into the cult while they are still naive, so that's just what they come to expect for work-life balance.

Heh. I once interviewed for an internal SW position that dealt with fab automation. I openly told them in the interview that I knew about their work culture and that was of great concern to me.

Interviewer: I know what you mean, and I promise the org has been working to improve the conditions. It's not as bad as it was.

Me: Great! However, for me the comparison isn't the "old you" but the rest of Intel.

Interviewer: Look, you're not going to get a 40 hour/week job anywhere in the SW industry!

Me: Umm... All my SW engineer roles at Intel were 40 hour/week jobs. I haven't worked on weekends in years.

Interviewer: OK. We normally interview people straight out of college who don't know any better.

Needless to say, I didn't take that job.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The midwest has some of the greatest engineering schools in the nation. I have been beating this drum hoarse for a few years now - but it's true. Specifically, members of the Big 10 conference are probably the best engineering schools conference in the world. Within 300 miles from Columbus (where you have Ohio State - Big10), you have Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, UIUC, Indiana, Purdue from the Big 10 along w…

I'm sure there's more great ones in California but I can count 14 off the top of my head; I think all of them are nearly within 300 miles of LA too. 1. Caltech 2. Stanford 3. Cal 4. UCLA 5. Harvey Mudd 6. USC 7. UCSD 8. UCD 9. UCSB 10. CPSLO 11. UCI 12. CPP 13. UCSC 14. UCR

I know what one of those acronyms means.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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When people ask me about Ohio, I always whole-hartedly recommend Cincinnati. But then you added "stuff to do within a reasonable driving distance," and I think that tips the scales in favor of Cleveland. And if you want to leave the car at home, you can take Amtrak from Cleveland to New York, Chicago, Toronto, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and D.C. I still love Cincinnati, but until international flying gets back in order…

Isn't Cincinnati excessively humid? On the other hand I hear the winters are cold but they lift pretty quick and don't linger on.

Humid, yes. Excessively so? Not compared to a lot of other places in America. Houston. Louisiana. Florida. Coastal Carolinas. I guess it depends on how well your particular body handles humidity.

Cincinnati has fairly mild winters compared with the rest of Ohio. A meteorologist there explained it to me once. I think something about being in a valley, and the rivers (Ohio and Little Miami) moderate things a bit.

He said in weather circles, it's sometimes called "the banana belt of Ohio."

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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> An initial $20 billion investment - the largest in Ohio's history - on a 1,000-acre site in New Albany will create 3,000 jobs

I grew up just north of there. An Intel factory nearby would be good news for anyone in the rust belt. I hope this doesn't fizzle out like Wisconsin's Foxconn plant.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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This is actually a brilliant location for them. One of those places that has much more going for it than people not from the region would realize. International airport, large rail depot, extremely low cost of living and a city/region that has more good restaurants and activities than might be expected. Ohio State University is in the city and is a huge school that is rapidly growing in academic standing. Road transi…

The midwest has some of the greatest engineering schools in the nation. I have been beating this drum hoarse for a few years now - but it's true. Specifically, members of the Big 10 conference are probably the best engineering schools conference in the world. Within 300 miles from Columbus (where you have Ohio State - Big10), you have Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, UIUC, Indiana, Purdue from the Big 10 along w…

CMU, CWRU, UMich, UIUC, and Indiana U are wonderful schools, but none of them are in Ohio [correction: I'm an idiot, CWRU is]. OSU doesn't belong in that list.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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This is actually a brilliant location for them. One of those places that has much more going for it than people not from the region would realize. International airport, large rail depot, extremely low cost of living and a city/region that has more good restaurants and activities than might be expected. Ohio State University is in the city and is a huge school that is rapidly growing in academic standing. Road transi…

Not to mention low probability of natural disasters: Earthquakes, tornados, wild fire, hurricanes, etc.

Access to large amounts of fresh water.
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