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I'd hazard a guess that nicotine is one of the two or three most addictive substances known to humanity. Opiates/heroin is probably worse, world of warcraft is probably third :-) The drug probably helped.
Don’t forget caffeine!
Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?
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Exercise does nothing for weight loss if you're eating too much. Exercise has health benefits, but weight loss is not one of them for the vast majority of people. People wildly overestimate how many calories they're burning.
s/calories/carbs Calories can still be a useful metric as a proxy but low calorie (“diet”) foods tend to compensate with more carbs. At least the ones I see regularly at my grocery store. As a side note: It’s actually difficult to find pre-packaged low carb food at regular grocery stores sadly. It requires effort to make yourself, just like going to the gym. Like most good things in life.
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#233I’m glad people are enjoying Ozempic. My experience from seeing a family member on it, is I would not touch it if I were a 500-pound alcoholic smoking two packs of cigarettes a day. That’s an exaggeration since it probably outweighs the health issues there, but only slightly. The person I know taking Ozempic has only lost weight (35 lbs) due to the fact that eating now makes her sick. She has been sapped of all energ…
Your relative’s sad story reminds me of a short story I read a few years ago about a miracle pill that leaves about 90% of its takers perfectly slim and able to stay that way eating anything, after a few truly disgusting initial days of elimination, but kills the other 10% gruesomely. Because it’s so wonderfully effective for the majority, there ends up being a ton of social and economic pressure for anyone even slig…
10 years ago, I was reading about nootropics and ran across an interesting piece on the ethics of drugs (that has probably been lost to time). The question it was asking was "why can we take drugs to bring us to normal, but we can't take drugs that make us better than normal?"
The interesting consequence is that it de facto forces people who don't need drugs to take them or be at a disadvantage. (think adderall at a competitive college or testosterone for lifting).
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Moralizing about weight loss is upsetting, as someone whose thankfully considers themselves "naturally thin". It's 100% true the vast majority (including me) needs to put some discipline into eating and exercise: normal people can't just eat whatever they want whenever they feel hungry. But normal people don't get fat eating whole foods, working out, eating below their demographic's daily intake; and normal people do…
I'm a person who has vacillated between being close to normal weight and obese. I think people who don't have problems controlling their diet tend to underestimate just how hard it can be to eat at a calorie deficit or even just maintenance when you've lost a large amount of weight. When I'm at my lowest weight I literally am thinking about food constantly and my maintenance calorie intake drops to about 1500-1800 ca…
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Same experience here, gallstone attacks
You can get those from rapid weight loss, I thought. Maybe it's working TOO well if that's the case.
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#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
Moralizing about weight loss is upsetting, as someone whose thankfully considers themselves "naturally thin". It's 100% true the vast majority (including me) needs to put some discipline into eating and exercise: normal people can't just eat whatever they want whenever they feel hungry. But normal people don't get fat eating whole foods, working out, eating below their demographic's daily intake; and normal people do…
I'm a person who has vacillated between being close to normal weight and obese. I think people who don't have problems controlling their diet tend to underestimate just how hard it can be to eat at a calorie deficit or even just maintenance when you've lost a large amount of weight. When I'm at my lowest weight I literally am thinking about food constantly and my maintenance calorie intake drops to about 1500-1800 ca…
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#237Some people really love to moralize and cite anecdotes about Ozempic.
Moralizing about weight loss is upsetting, as someone whose thankfully considers themselves "naturally thin". It's 100% true the vast majority (including me) needs to put some discipline into eating and exercise: normal people can't just eat whatever they want whenever they feel hungry. But normal people don't get fat eating whole foods, working out, eating below their demographic's daily intake; and normal people do…
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#238Exercise is free and the side effects are you get stronger, more energetic, and better looking. Ozempic costs money and its side effects include cancer, kidney failure, and ruining your eyes. https://www.ozempic.com/faqs.html edit: many point out calorie intake is the real problem, it's true: buy a kitchen scale, weigh your food, count your calories, and you will lose weight. Exercise is optional compared to that. St…
Exercise does nothing for weight loss if you're eating too much. Exercise has health benefits, but weight loss is not one of them for the vast majority of people. People wildly overestimate how many calories they're burning.
And people wildly underestimate how many calories they need. Just by limiting the one portion to 50g of pasta, instead of my preferred 150+g, I can go under 100kg in less than a week. My 'how much should I cook' habits formed when I was young and spent at least a couple of hours commuting, but nowadays I'm quite literally just sit on my ass all day. It's bothersome and isn't fulfilling to use scales cut down on the food (especially if it's tasty) but...
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Your relative’s sad story reminds me of a short story I read a few years ago about a miracle pill that leaves about 90% of its takers perfectly slim and able to stay that way eating anything, after a few truly disgusting initial days of elimination, but kills the other 10% gruesomely. Because it’s so wonderfully effective for the majority, there ends up being a ton of social and economic pressure for anyone even slig…
I have to admit, I would probably have taken the pill depending on how gruesome (or mitigatible) the death is. I've been obese and I've been thin, and life is not worth living when obese. 10 years ago, I was reading about nootropics and ran across an interesting piece on the ethics of drugs (that has probably been lost to time). The question it was asking was "why can we take drugs to bring us to normal, but we can't…
Because ultimately drugs make you pay one way or another, eg dependency, liver toxicity, numbness of some other facet and so on. When none of those will be true it’s the day they become the new norm
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>From what I have heard, all of these issues come back as soon as someone comes off the drug. So either a person is committing to a lifetime of being dependent on this drug, or a person is committing to some period of time of ideal living, followed by a possible time of depression after reverting to the status quo. This is true of every weight loss intervention: Weight Watchers, low-carb, keto, Whole 30, etc. Once pe…
> The only intervention that does reliably work is bariatric surgery. My understanding is surgery only works reliably because failure to comply with life style changes post-op is easily fatal and ethical doctors only perform the operation after patients have demonstrated that ability. In all but the most extreme patients, about a fifth to a third of the target weight loss has to happen pre-op for doctors to even cons…
Bariatric surgery usually works for 3 reasons. First and most obvious is that it reduces your stomach size so you simply can't eat as much. Second, in most cases, reducing the surface area of the stomach reduces the amount of hunger hormones that get released thus making you less hungry all the time. And the third is malabsorption. Meaning that of the food you do eat, you absorb less of the calories than you did before. So if it were possible, you could potentially eat the same amount as before but still lose weight.