Some people really love to moralize and cite anecdotes about Ozempic.
Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?
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#112I’m glad people are enjoying Ozempic. My experience from seeing a family member on it, is I would not touch it if I were a 500-pound alcoholic smoking two packs of cigarettes a day. That’s an exaggeration since it probably outweighs the health issues there, but only slightly. The person I know taking Ozempic has only lost weight (35 lbs) due to the fact that eating now makes her sick. She has been sapped of all energ…
Yeah, that's definitely always been my challenge with weight loss. I have zero problem with self control -- I can easily cut calories in half or less (e.g. 1000-1200 cal/day), but it's simply that my body suffers immensely. I lose all energy, can't concentrate on anything, and my immune system weakens so I start getting colds constantly.
I'm sure I'd easily lose weight with Ozempic but I'd still be suffering health issues. Not because of Ozempic itself but just because I wouldn't be getting enough calories, despite still being above a healthy weight.
Re: Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?
#113I’m glad people are enjoying Ozempic. My experience from seeing a family member on it, is I would not touch it if I were a 500-pound alcoholic smoking two packs of cigarettes a day. That’s an exaggeration since it probably outweighs the health issues there, but only slightly. The person I know taking Ozempic has only lost weight (35 lbs) due to the fact that eating now makes her sick. She has been sapped of all energ…
I know someone that took it and his gallbladder burst. Doctors couldn’t say if it was related to the drug, though.
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>Sad that the obvious route (diet and exercise) is skipped by so many people, who just want to continue their unhealthy lifestyles but not suffer the physical consequences of it.
Food has a different effects on different bodies with different mental state and neurochemistry. Pleasurable foods can be as addictive as recreational drugs. Is it really fair to blame it on people? When somebody can't stop using cocaine, we don't call them undisciplined, we call them addicts.
It is far better for somebody to use a crutch to lose weight than remain fat and significantly damage their health in turn reducing their lifespan. Increasing tax on unhealthy foods and reducing sugar is still a work in progress. The long term goal is to nudge people into healthier foods such that the cycle of addiction is harder to start.
With the collapse of traditional gender roles, both the man and a woman in a typical family are now working full time. It's harder particularly for the lower class to eat healthily when there's nobody to prepare meals. If that problem were solved, we'd be a big step closer to solving obesity.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
The first days, weeks and months are often the hardest time when quitting a substance. If this drug helps a smoker not smoke for 3 months, by that time the nicotine addiction has weakened considerably. They've gotten past the hardest part. I see no downside to that. Similarly, if a person loses 30 pounds on this drug, then stops using the drug and reverts to normal habits, it will take a while to regain those 30 poun…
> The first days, weeks and months are often the hardest time when quitting a substance. If this drug helps a smoker not smoke for 3 months, by that time the nicotine addiction has weakened considerably. I love(d) nicotine and it was the only substance that I ever was addicted to. I tried dozens of times to quit and the only thing that helped was getting treatment for my ADHD. Quitting nicotine was easy for me on met…
>I only tried combining them and nearly went to the ER
Could you elaborate on that? I'm currently still a smoker (working on it...) and on Concerta. Your note alarms me :)
Re: Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?
#116I’m glad people are enjoying Ozempic. My experience from seeing a family member on it, is I would not touch it if I were a 500-pound alcoholic smoking two packs of cigarettes a day. That’s an exaggeration since it probably outweighs the health issues there, but only slightly. The person I know taking Ozempic has only lost weight (35 lbs) due to the fact that eating now makes her sick. She has been sapped of all energ…
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> Sad that the obvious route (diet and exercise) is skipped by so many people Many people also try it repeatedly for several years or even decades, failing all the while. There's also psychological issues that make this hard (possibly among other issues), and no pithy remedy like "try diet and exercise" for that (well, ok, sometimes people say "try therapy" this way, but we can include people who've included that for…
I also think the problem is that if you’re losing weight, you’re by definition not eating healthy. If you could skip to the fat gone step, and work on a diet that maintains a healthy weight, it seems like you would have a easier time adjusting.
Re: Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
The first days, weeks and months are often the hardest time when quitting a substance. If this drug helps a smoker not smoke for 3 months, by that time the nicotine addiction has weakened considerably. They've gotten past the hardest part. I see no downside to that. Similarly, if a person loses 30 pounds on this drug, then stops using the drug and reverts to normal habits, it will take a while to regain those 30 poun…
> The first days, weeks and months are often the hardest time when quitting a substance. If this drug helps a smoker not smoke for 3 months, by that time the nicotine addiction has weakened considerably. I love(d) nicotine and it was the only substance that I ever was addicted to. I tried dozens of times to quit and the only thing that helped was getting treatment for my ADHD. Quitting nicotine was easy for me on met…
Makes sense given the mechanism of action.
I describe my adhd as being addicted to nicotine and stopping cold turkey. Except you're not addicted to nicotine, what you're addicted to is a stimulus that is inconsistent and changes constantly. Your cigarette is a constantly changing thing.
Methylphenidate really messed me up, I found Lisdexamfetamine much much more effective.
I still use nicotine, though in vape form these days.
Re: Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?
#119I’m glad people are enjoying Ozempic. My experience from seeing a family member on it, is I would not touch it if I were a 500-pound alcoholic smoking two packs of cigarettes a day. That’s an exaggeration since it probably outweighs the health issues there, but only slightly. The person I know taking Ozempic has only lost weight (35 lbs) due to the fact that eating now makes her sick. She has been sapped of all energ…
As a counterpoint, I've been using it for several months and have had no side effects to speak of other than occasionally some mild reflux.
If anything, my energy levels actually went up immediately after starting it. Normally I was pretty sluggish but it felt like some extra firepower was unlocked.
Everything has risks and benefits, and might harm some people. I hope your family member gets better soon.
Re: Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?
#120I’m glad people are enjoying Ozempic. My experience from seeing a family member on it, is I would not touch it if I were a 500-pound alcoholic smoking two packs of cigarettes a day. That’s an exaggeration since it probably outweighs the health issues there, but only slightly. The person I know taking Ozempic has only lost weight (35 lbs) due to the fact that eating now makes her sick. She has been sapped of all energ…
Yeah, that's definitely always been my challenge with weight loss. I have zero problem with self control -- I can easily cut calories in half or less (e.g. 1000-1200 cal/day), but it's simply that my body suffers immensely. I lose all energy, can't concentrate on anything, and my immune system weakens so I start getting colds constantly. I'm sure I'd easily lose weight with Ozempic but I'd still be suffering health i…
> my body suffers immensely
Does the same thing happen if you slowly wean yourself down? Are you cutting out essential nutrients that your body needs to function properly rather than the unnecessary carbs/junk? The reason I'm asking these things is that people I know who have reduced their caloric intake usually report feeling better, not worse.