YouTube removed a viral video of two doctors calling for an end to quarantine

Post by busymom0 » Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 1:20 AM UTC

dangus wrote: post #134

gmfawcett wrote: post #47

This is lazy reporting. It's not wrong, but there's no insight here. No critical assessment of the claims made in the video nor the Youtube T&C, just a few clickbaity excerpts and some reaction comments. Compare with this excellent piece by the CBC on a somewhat similar viral video in Canada: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/u-of-r-biology-p...

That shouldn’t be surprising, The Blaze was founded by Glenn Beck. It’s not a reputable journalistic outlet.

Post by philwelch » Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 1:20 AM UTC

threatofrain wrote: post #126

forgot_my_pwd wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that misses the point. The very fact that a few people at Google/Youtube have the power to censor whomever they want for whatever reason they choose is a problem in itself. Are the doctors in the video saying untruths or misrepresenting data? I think what they said in the video was eminently reasonable. But perhaps I'm wrong. Luckily we have the freedom to publicly critique their claims - assuming our critiques a…

But the endgame is to have an organization, such as the AMA or the ABA, for the delegation of responsible judgment. Google and YouTube just grew up too fast without the FCC catching up, but in a society where we felt that Google and YouTube shouldn't be in a position of deciding whether youths might come into contact with swear words, that ultimately means we want delegation to another trustworthy body such as the FC…

Post by paulcole » Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 1:23 AM UTC

irjustin wrote: post #137

senectus1 wrote: post #119

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I dont get this mindset. They aren't stopping them voicing their opinions or views... they're just stopping them posting it on THEIR service. Newspapers do that all the time, TV and Radio does it all the time. Why is this different?

It's that youtube, reddit take on more of a public forum than TV, radio at least that was the feeling in the past. The idea that anyone can be a content creator is, it's supposed to be as neutral as possible. Let the world battle it out against itself. Once you start taking sides of opinions (as opposed to legal ones) then you become a content curator. For better or worse, America was built on the idea that I can hav…

Post by gr33nman » Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 1:24 AM UTC

tinalumfoil wrote: post #89

gmfawcett wrote: post #47

This is lazy reporting. It's not wrong, but there's no insight here. No critical assessment of the claims made in the video nor the Youtube T&C, just a few clickbaity excerpts and some reaction comments. Compare with this excellent piece by the CBC on a somewhat similar viral video in Canada: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/u-of-r-biology-p...

This level of reporting is pretty par for the course in US media. It's just reporting what happened without much commentary. And really, the idea that news media need to herd their audience into thinking the right things is ridiculous. It's a news article, not an editorial.

Post by busymom0 » Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 1:24 AM UTC

colmvp wrote: post #91

ThisIsTheWay wrote: post #9

One of the comments made in the video (referenced in the article as well) is "We always have between 37,000 and 60,000 deaths in the United States, every single year. No pandemic talk. No shelter in place. No shutting down businesses." Since early Feb we've seen ~54K deaths from Coronavirus alone (excluding influenza deaths) [0]. The argument that this is just part of the normal flu cycle doesn't make any sense. [0]…

And that's recorded cases. There might be people who died from Covid-19 who weren't tested post-mortem, especially in February when the virus was flying under the radar. NYTimes had an article which showed a number of places around the world have had a surge in deaths compared to the same time period in previous years. And even if you subtract the known Covid-19 cases, there's still a sharp increase in the count.