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Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by AfterShave »

joshuaissac wrote: post #76
crummy wrote: post #31

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It also had mouse gestures, right click drag left to go back, right click... swirl? to reload... felt like I was casting spells!

> right click drag left to go back, right click... swirl? to reload I still customise my Chrome and Firefox mouse gestures add-ons to work exactly this way, despite having long forgotten where those conventions originally came from. Other gestures I have, probably also from Opera: DL: Left tab RL: Right tab D: Page Down U: Page Up RLR: Close tab/window

Mouse gestures, right click scroll between tabs, closed tab history & current tab history. I thank Opera for showing me the way.

Sadly the last two were killed off in Firefox in that last big add-on update. I didn't find anything that works since then.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by andris9 »

j_koreth wrote: post #29

I'm surprised it took this long for Vivaldi Mail to come out. I believe it was teased relatively early on in Vivaldi's life although I don't envy the developers that had to work with IMAP. I am glad to see that some love given to RSS in a browser since it's been marginalized in all mainstream browsers. It's frustrating to see a refuge of decentralized media consumption be thrown away considering privacy concerns. I a…

For IMAP they seem to use emailjs-imap-client that is written by myself for Whiteout.io a long time ago. IMAP command tags are still prefixed with `W` that would stand for [W]hiteout. Nice to see my old code being useful :D

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by IlliOnato »

grishka wrote: post #94
rplnt wrote: post #16

I really tried to like Vivaldi, and it could be a good browser, but is so unbearably slow. The whole UI is unresponsive. Opening a new tab can take almost a second. Price for javascript apps I guess. edit for clarification: This was on OSX, on Windows it was OK. Used it for almost a year as a secondary browser, no change, gave up.

I found a bug that slowed it down a great deal. It was the fact that they put multiple `filter` styles onto the tabs, even when those filters did nothing useful. It was still extremely taxing on the GPU driver. But, since you can customize the UI with your own CSS (there's a hidden setting you need to enable first, in vivaldi://experiments), I put a simple `* {filter: none !important}` in there. After I did, it felt…

Can you give more details? I can see how to enable custom CSS, but where I go from there? Where to put the custom CSS?

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by tssva »

crummy wrote: post #31
whikhngbu359 wrote: post #15

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I believe Opera was the first browsers to introduce tabs.

It also had mouse gestures, right click drag left to go back, right click... swirl? to reload... felt like I was casting spells!

And the reason I don't use Vivaldi today is that it doesn't support trackpad multitouch gestures.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by kingofclams »

yunohn wrote: post #97
lucideer wrote: post #88

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> I’m just finding it really hard to believe that it’s sustainable and makes them enough money to run a team… Firefox is funded the same way, and they seem to have plenty of income...

Firefox makes the vast majority of that income via their Google partnership. Vivaldi claims they do not get paid by Google.

I’m not sure, but I have a feeling the majority of Vivaldi users wouldn’t be using google

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by herjazz »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #87
littlecranky67 wrote: post #35

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Loved Opera back in the day. It had "page specific settings" that would let me allow to set HTTP/Socks5 proxies on a per-page setting - today you cannot even set a proxy anymore without changing your system settings (not browser settings). If anyone asks, I used this heavily to bypass country blocks/redirects on a per-page level and also with privoxy on some privacy invading sites.

foxyproxy does this. i set up a ssh passthrough and routed foxyproxy with only specifed pages to use local proxy which meant they would be routed through the ssh. it worked for what i wanted

I miss Proxomitron

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by yunohn »

kingofclams wrote: post #115
yunohn wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox makes the vast majority of that income via their Google partnership. Vivaldi claims they do not get paid by Google.

I’m not sure, but I have a feeling the majority of Vivaldi users wouldn’t be using google

Frankly speaking, I’m pretty sure most users of both Firefox and Vivaldi are using Google.

But my point was more around how the minimal amount of money coming from other search engines or sponsored bookmarks can’t sustain a browser dev team.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by rob74 »

One killer feature for Vivaldi Mail would be supporting M$ two-factor authentication. Since my company made Exchange 2FA mandatory, I had to give up Thunderbird and use the Outlook 365 web interface due to lack of alternatives under Linux. That would definitely be in the spirit of giving you an alternative to Big Tech (at least on the client side). But I'm not sure if it's even doable though?!

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by gsich »

littlecranky67 wrote: post #35
oblio wrote: post #3

Vivaldi Mail? That took a while :-D Vivaldi is developed by a team created by the former Opera founder and CEO. Vivaldi kind of tries to re-create the spirit of Opera, but I think it's going to be too hard to do it. For those who didn't use it, Opera was first a paid browser (which limited its reach), then an ad-supported browser (which again limited its reach). It then finally became a free browser but by then it wa…

Loved Opera back in the day. It had "page specific settings" that would let me allow to set HTTP/Socks5 proxies on a per-page setting - today you cannot even set a proxy anymore without changing your system settings (not browser settings). If anyone asks, I used this heavily to bypass country blocks/redirects on a per-page level and also with privoxy on some privacy invading sites.

Firefox has proxy settings. Socks5 is bugged though. Doesn't support user/password authentication.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by grishka »

IlliOnato wrote: post #113
grishka wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found a bug that slowed it down a great deal. It was the fact that they put multiple `filter` styles onto the tabs, even when those filters did nothing useful. It was still extremely taxing on the GPU driver. But, since you can customize the UI with your own CSS (there's a hidden setting you need to enable first, in vivaldi://experiments), I put a simple `* {filter: none !important}` in there. After I did, it felt…

Can you give more details? I can see how to enable custom CSS, but where I go from there? Where to put the custom CSS?

Settings -> Appearance. There will be a section to choose a folder with your custom css files.
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