I'm a long time Firefox user and I still use Firefox for personal use. However my workspace is Google Heavy and Google Meet is a 2nd class citizen on FF. I hate chrome, and Vivaldi is the best blink based browser that fills this niche. I just love the tree-style tabs and Vivaldi was the only blink based browser that provided that. I really love it so far, and it's perfect for my use case.
Vivaldi 4.0
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Re: Vivaldi 4.0
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Vivaldi kind of tries to re-create the spirit of Opera, but I think it's going to be too hard to do it. Oh, it's definitely recreating the experience of Opera. You encounter an annoying bug, you report it to their private bug tracker, and then they'll fix it in two years. Maybe. If you're lucky. And you don't get to know its status in the meantime. And the macOS version still feels like an afterthought sometimes. S…
I guess I had it good, I was using the Windows and Linux Opera versions. The Windows version was always solid.
I used it exclusively for about a year (iirc) on Linux and had only some minor crashes. When they switched to Chromium I switched to Firefox and never had a single crash since. (It's not only luck, I disable all the feature-creep I know of in about:config)
Re: Vivaldi 4.0
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Vivaldi kind of tries to re-create the spirit of Opera, but I think it's going to be too hard to do it. Oh, it's definitely recreating the experience of Opera. You encounter an annoying bug, you report it to their private bug tracker, and then they'll fix it in two years. Maybe. If you're lucky. And you don't get to know its status in the meantime. And the macOS version still feels like an afterthought sometimes. S…
I guess I had it good, I was using the Windows and Linux Opera versions. The Windows version was always solid.
I vividly remember how it took them several months to make Opera display Flash content correctly (at 2x scale instead of a blurry upscaled-after-rasterization mess) on retina displays when I just bought my macbook. Other browsers had it done in a matter of weeks, days if you installed a beta build. And that was 2012, back when flash was an essential part of the web.
Re: Vivaldi 4.0
#84Vivaldi Mail? That took a while :-D Vivaldi is developed by a team created by the former Opera founder and CEO. Vivaldi kind of tries to re-create the spirit of Opera, but I think it's going to be too hard to do it. For those who didn't use it, Opera was first a paid browser (which limited its reach), then an ad-supported browser (which again limited its reach). It then finally became a free browser but by then it wa…
it abandoned the Opera engine though, to focus on the UI experience
so, technically not very different to Brave although many users are led to believe it kept the former Opera render codebase
Re: Vivaldi 4.0
#85Vivaldi Mail? That took a while :-D Vivaldi is developed by a team created by the former Opera founder and CEO. Vivaldi kind of tries to re-create the spirit of Opera, but I think it's going to be too hard to do it. For those who didn't use it, Opera was first a paid browser (which limited its reach), then an ad-supported browser (which again limited its reach). It then finally became a free browser but by then it wa…
> Vivaldi kind of tries to re-create the spirit of Opera, but I think it's going to be too hard to do it. Oh, it's definitely recreating the experience of Opera. You encounter an annoying bug, you report it to their private bug tracker, and then they'll fix it in two years. Maybe. If you're lucky. And you don't get to know its status in the meantime. And the macOS version still feels like an afterthought sometimes. S…
> they'll fix it in two years
Seems pretty quick, at least compared to Chromium / Firefox ;)
> you don't get to know its status in the meantime
Toward the end of Opera's life (pre v15) either an employee or a member of the community (can't remember which) did actually set up a public bug tracker tracking the status of publicly-reported bugs. It didn't show comments or anything like that: just the original bug description, report date & status. So that was... something at least.
They did also give private bug tracker access to a subset of community members, by invite.
Re: Vivaldi 4.0
#86I use Vivaldi regularly for one reason: my company has disabled access to the developer tools on Chrome and FF. With Vivaldi (being Chromium) I have full access again!
Just don't tell them I told you ...
Re: Vivaldi 4.0
#87Vivaldi Mail? That took a while :-D Vivaldi is developed by a team created by the former Opera founder and CEO. Vivaldi kind of tries to re-create the spirit of Opera, but I think it's going to be too hard to do it. For those who didn't use it, Opera was first a paid browser (which limited its reach), then an ad-supported browser (which again limited its reach). It then finally became a free browser but by then it wa…
Loved Opera back in the day. It had "page specific settings" that would let me allow to set HTTP/Socks5 proxies on a per-page setting - today you cannot even set a proxy anymore without changing your system settings (not browser settings). If anyone asks, I used this heavily to bypass country blocks/redirects on a per-page level and also with privoxy on some privacy invading sites.
foxyproxy does this. i set up a ssh passthrough and routed foxyproxy with only specifed pages to use local proxy which meant they would be routed through the ssh. it worked for what i wanted
Re: Vivaldi 4.0
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
First hit in Google https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/
They spoke about this business model in the release post too. I’m just finding it really hard to believe that it’s sustainable and makes them enough money to run a team…
> I’m just finding it really hard to believe that it’s sustainable and makes them enough money to run a team…
Firefox is funded the same way, and they seem to have plenty of income...
Re: Vivaldi 4.0
#89I really tried to like Vivaldi, and it could be a good browser, but is so unbearably slow. The whole UI is unresponsive. Opening a new tab can take almost a second. Price for javascript apps I guess. edit for clarification: This was on OSX, on Windows it was OK. Used it for almost a year as a secondary browser, no change, gave up.
Is it based on electron. - drum roll - :)
No :)
Re: Vivaldi 4.0
#90Since discussions about the browser’s approach to design philosophy and privacy are coming up in this thread, I’ll just flag that I did an interview with Jon von Tetzchner earlier this year where he talked about some of those things, as well as the lineage with Opera: https://tedium.co/2021/02/05/vivaldi-browser-history-profile...